<p>Did anyone apply RD and get in? Well of course there are people who got in through RD, but did Penn know you loved the school? I’m afraid to apply early because I might not stick out among the rest of those geniuses. But I want Penn to know that I am indeed enthusiastic about it! I want Penn to know that it’s my first choice. Any thoughts?</p>
<p>applying ED is the best way to show them that youre interested.</p>
<p>why would you be afraid to apply early for fear of sticking out amid stronger students? Many who apply early do so because they know it will increase their chance of admission, and it is the weaker applicants who need that boost most. I have no concrete evidence that the strongest applicants apply RD, but anecdotally, virtually all of the JWS, BFS, and UScholars I know at Penn who were invited into the various programs as freshman applied RD.</p>
<p>unusualsatire based on your posts you are overemphazing the point of Penn knowing you love the school. By now we all know how much you love it. I agree with bobbobbob. Anyway, you are still a junior and seeing how Harvard changed its EA policy, watch out for any changes in Penn's. I have a feeling nothing is going to happen, but you never know...</p>
<p>"anecdotally, virtually all of the JWS, BFS, and UScholars I know at Penn who were invited into the various programs as freshman applied RD."</p>
<p>My theory on that is that Penn uses it as an enticement to RD acceptees to increase their yield. Not necessary for ED.</p>
<p>wanna know something funny? Schools like Penn don't actually care much about how much you "love" them, they know most people do..All they really care about is protecting their yield and keeping those stats up nice and high.</p>
<p>that cynical comment was somewhat refreshing. keep up the good work.</p>
<p>quaker10- you're probably right in that they use it as an enticement, as they only send invitations to 1% of those accepted to Penn, and they oftentimes tend to be students accepted at multiple ivies, but that neglects my main point that the main strength of the applicant pool lies in RD, not ED (not to mention that 1% of those accepted has a negligible effect on yield)</p>
<p>Yes as a matter of fact, Penn does care. They want students who would enjoy attending Penn and would benefit from the individuality (you'd have to look into that). That's why they said the most enthusiastic students apply early. </p>
<p>Also, they didn't issue the "why Penn" essay just for kicks. They want to know why you need Penn in your life. </p>
<p>How about instead of pessimistic remarks, do some research which is actually useful, because it's embarassing to have the WRONG info, boxesarefun. </p>
<p>For the rest of you simpletons, my main question basically asks if it's possible to apply RD and still show the same eagerness as one would applying ED.</p>
<p>yes you can, but I'd tone down the condescending arrogance</p>
<p>and before you continue to ask people on this board for advice, consider the old adage:</p>
<p>who is more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?</p>
<p>I'm just freaking out now rather than in senior year because i know i'd absolutely freeze and i wouldn't be able to think. I really don't want to be rejected, and i don't really appreciate the sarcasm, that's all. It lost my temper. </p>
<p>So i guess i would have to show the interest in the essay.</p>
<p>I'm sure that being "in love" with Penn will help with your application. What I mean is that someone who is truly interested in Penn will likely spend more time on the Penn application (makes sense no?). However, just gushing about how much you love Penn will get you nowhere...You still need the stats to back you up. The only way to get in without having the stats to back you up is if you happen to be a recruited athlete/URM/legacy applying early. </p>
<p>The why penn essay checks for 2 things: that you know how to write (well), and that you've done your research. Any half decent writer can pull off an "I love Penn" tone, really, it's not terribly difficult. It's also a really neat way to make sure that the writer isn't just writing a generic college essay and sending it out to everyone. </p>
<p>Of course Penn says that the most enthusiastic students apply early...they want you to apply early, it helps their selectivity/yield because ED is binding. If you can't read between the lines of Penn's website, or if you fail to analyze what Penn's OFFICIAL representatives tell you, you don't belong at a school like Penn.</p>
<p>EDIT: If you find yourself freezing up so often, you should take a step back and think about whether you can handle a competive school like penn..</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Why couldn't you have said alllllll that in the first place?? </p>
<p>Yeah, i know sucking up doesn't work and that's not what i'm trying to do anyway. "love" as in greatly interested. gosh. And, paying attention to the app as opposed to what? </p>
<p>Why does everyone play the violin!? Colleges need people for their orch, but how much space can they possibly have?</p>
<p>don't kid yourself.
the essay is just to insure that you've researched Penn.
So that you're not applying for the hell of it.
Enthusiasm won't make or break your admission.
Sorry but there's 20000+ kids like you
who want to go there.
It's a sad reality. You can't count solely on ED.
All you can do is pray.</p>
<p>Les bit-ches</p>
<p>Nearly everyone loves Ivy League schools, and Ivy League schools know they are the object of fawning admiration from the masses.</p>
<p>That approach works better at the next level down</p>