<p>Well anyways</p>
<p>i expected it</p>
<p>but i REALLY REALLY Want to get into wharton
so, i’m taking a gap year (even though i got REJECTED)</p>
<p>I need to find out why !!</p>
<p>how do i find out? do i call them? do u think she (regional director) will tell me if i beg her enough!?</p>
<p>chanman, I'm sorry. I knew you really wanted to go there and feared the worst when you disappeared for awhile.</p>
<p>I wouldn't beg, as it might put her on edge. I talked to mine and she was fairly open with me, except I kinda had to read b/w the lines to get the message from her.</p>
<p>chanman- tell us your stats</p>
<p>chanman......sorry about your news. So you are taking a GAP and then will you reapply to Wharton? Is that your plan?</p>
<p>hey thanks guys</p>
<p>its ok, i'm not that disappointed. because i know why i got rejected</p>
<p>here is my entire. application, if anyone wants to know.</p>
<p>rank: 6/326. Unweighted GPA is 3.4. Gotten 10 Bs and 1 C in high school.</p>
<p>32 ACT (best sections combined)
800 Math II, 770 Math I, 740 Bio SAT II's</p>
<p>RESUME:
<a href="http://www.magicnotes2.siteburg.com/resume.doc%5B/url%5D">www.magicnotes2.siteburg.com/resume.doc</a></p>
<p>my why wharton essay:
<a href="http://www.magicnotes2.siteburg.com/whywharton.doc%5B/url%5D">www.magicnotes2.siteburg.com/whywharton.doc</a></p>
<p>My auto bio essay was very good, counselor said it was best he ever read.</p>
<p>Recs were good, but not the best
they didn't say "I was the BEST student they had..or anything."</p>
<p>Counselor rec was amazing good (thats what he SAYS)</p>
<p>other things:
multilingual
1st generation. parents only finished middle school</p>
<p>2 ISS in high school <huge factor for rejection.
<a href="http://www.magicnotes2.siteburg.com/suspension.doc%5B/url%5D">www.magicnotes2.siteburg.com/suspension.doc</a></p>
<p>stambliark, or anyone else who called penn: Can you give me some advice to approach the admission officer? How did u get her/him to pull up your file and tell u why u got rejected?</p>
<p>Hazmat: I probably am taking a gap year. Even though it won't erase my ISS (2). I'll be more mature, my stats will improve (i have all A's this year , and my rank will improve). And I will study my ACT to a 34 (I brought it up from a 21 to a 32 right now).</p>
<p>I'll write Penn letters, i'll beg them and email them. I'll show that no matter what I will get in next year.</p>
<p>If they do reject me again next year...then i guess i'll have to go to some other schools.</p>
<p>oh and stambliark, i'm sorry u didnt make it in too
u had amazing stats and fundraiser crazy too.
did u find out why u got rejected?</p>
<p>chanman i read your Why "Wharton" essay. no offense but there are some things in there that could turn an adcom against you. </p>
<p>first of all, it's a why "penn" essay. calling it "why wharton" makes it seem like you dont give a damn about the rest of the university. penn is special not solely because of wharton, but because of the other 3 quarters of it. </p>
<p>you mention how you helped your dad kick out the tenants from your house. that sounds really negative in an adcom's ears. you painted this picture of a greedy landlord who has no sympathy for the poor tenants who are just trying to scrap a living and a place to live. in reality, i'm sure you and your father arent like that, but the admissions people cannot be so sure.</p>
<p>and the whole "dad came from hong kong and made a good living in america" theme is overused to death. if you were to write them another essay/letter, avoid anything like that.</p>
<p>please don't take offense from my words, i just want you to know that you shouldnt take the rejection too personal. there's nothing innately wrong with you as a person, but perhaps your essay didnt shed you in the best light. good luck with other schools.</p>
<p>You were suspended for knocking a Pepsi over? Your school sucks.</p>
<p>Chan, as harsh as this may sound, I think you would have been rejected even without the suspensions. I looked through your resume and nothing caught my eye, except for the fact that it is quite obvious that there is no passion in your activities and almost everything appears done to get admitted to college. Your resume is four pages long, which is incredibly long and is just a splash of activities with no clear cut umbrella and underlying theme.
In your apology letter for the suspension you cite that no one in your class liked you so you had to sit at a different desk, and in your Why Wharton (which should be Why Penn) essay you portrayed yourself as a jerk and in many ways explained why people didn't like you (in regards to kicking the tenant out).
I think Penn rejected you for the following reasons:
1) Nothing really stood out (minus the first gen. college of course but that isn't enough to get you in)
2) Lowish GPA
3) Personality Issues (at least in their eyes) I'm sure you're a great guy, but that didn't really stand out from what you let us know in your previous post.</p>
<p>Please take this as constructive criticism and not an attack, I really do want to help you.</p>
<p>1) Your resume is unprofessional. Things are underlined where they shouldn't be. You used too many fonts and too many font sizes. And it's poorly formatted.</p>
<p>2) The why Penn essay. (Read above responses).</p>
<p>My thoughts (similar to previously posted stuff)</p>
<ol>
<li>Graphically speaking, your resume is really really hard to read and follow</li>
<li>Your Why Penn essay is not exactly what i think they are looking for</li>
</ol>
<p>In a resume you dont list every single small thing you have done. I think the adcoms have had it with web design business with zero or 1000> cash flow. Thats not a business and is extremely trivial. </p>
<p>Much of it is basically resume fillers with little commitment to any particular activity.</p>
<p>wow thanks for the advice</p>
<p>if i change all that, and REAPPLY next year as a freshman (i will be attending boarding school at that time)</p>
<p>what do u think of that?</p>
<p>chanman, do you have another screen name? is it "chamnan"?</p>
<p>it's gayasinyellow (dont ask why) lol</p>
<p>Chanman: I think you need some match schools and that hyperfocusing on Wharton is just coming across as immature. If you have the passion, you can succeed in business from schools less selective than Wharton, and you surely want to come across as a person who will be interesting as a coworker..with or without Wharton.<br>
I remember two boys when I was growing up..who focused only on the Naval Academy because of boyish crushes on the image of that particular institution. Neither got the nomination needed to compete for a spot, and they did not make alternative plans.<br>
Wharton is well-aware of its off the charts name value and clout among applicants. They are more interested in applicants who visualize themselves succeeding in many fine business colleges and I would say that most people accepted to Wharton also made sensible realistic alternative plans by applying to match schools as well as pursuing a couple reach schools. By all means try again for Wharton, but recognize that not applying to more likely schools may actually hinder you in presenting yourself as a shrewd and reality based young man. Business acumen requires social acumen.</p>
<p>One thing I would completely axe from your essay is the part where you said your dad "made you" do this or that. Schools want to know that YOU are the driving force behind your actions, not that you did impressive things because your dad made you. Even if you ended up learning from it in the end, I don't think that part came across the way you intended it.</p>
<p>Faline2
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<p>I opine that this is a cultural phenom and less a maturity factor.</p>
<p>Adding to the above post.. are you really sure that taking a year off is your best bet? Don't be too focused on one college (especially for an undergraduate education)- there are tons of great undergraduate business schools that you could go to now, and even if you are really keen on Wharton, you could always try to transfer there after freshman year. It seems to me to be a waste of a year for you not to go to school when you could be getting an equally great education somewhere else. Add to all of this the fact that you're not assured of getting into Wharton, it seems pretty clear that it isn't your best bet to take a year off. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but.. what if you don't get in to Wharton when you apply again? What then? You just wasted a year of your life, and other colleges are going to look pretty unfavorably on a candidate who took a whole year off just to get into another college- your chances then to get into a college as good as Wharton are a lot lower. This is just my opinion, but play it safe and go to another college this year, and then try to transfer in.</p>
<p>i'll be at boarding school for that year , learning .</p>
<p>but i'm confident that i can improve-that's why i'm taking a gap year
i'm confident i can raise my ACT 3 points, and my grades better. I also want to show some maturity and show that i don't have kid-troubles anymore</p>
<p>If i dont get into wharton next year, i'm applying to other schools</p>