Rejection from stony brook

The CUNY Schools mentioned in my comments are NOT Community Colleges. They are all 4-year institutions. Do you live on LI? Are there acceptable Community Colleges there and how much does is the Tuition/Fees?

OP said: "My mom doesn’t believe in community colleges. So that’s one reason why I didn’t apply to cuny’s at all. " The CUNY colleges are 4-year colleges, NOT community colleges at all. There are several CUNY’s, at varying degrees of selectivity. Have you looked at CUNY - College of Staten Island? It’s a nice campus, and accessible. I think they still accept applications. You should also look at the other CUNY’s as well - Queens, Brooklyn, etc. and see if you can still apply. The CUNY’s have very good faculty and decent programs. As another post mentioned, the colleges are affordable with Pell and other grants.

Many other posters have expressed concern over the cost of Adelphi, Hofstra etc. Please pay attention to those concerns. Unfortunately, in higher education, higher cost is not necessarily an indication of better quality of education. And universities like Adelphi and Hofstra are NOT worth going into tens of thousands of dollars in debt.

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I actually live in queens. NCC is the community college in LI which is about 3,000. In my school it’s like if you start off at community college you’re a disappointment/:. My guidance counselors have literally imprinted that into my head. I felt like if I went to community college, I would be considered a failure. @Psata82‌. @mathprof63‌ you’re definetly right. I’ll definetly pm you.

@Rhyannag, Since you’re in NYC, your best bet if you want to attend med school later is probably one of the CUNYs. Ask your mom if you can put in an app to CCNY as a safety, and get it done tomorrow. It never hurts to have a backup and you don’t want to miss the deadlines. The City College site said they’re still accepting apps (even though their deadline to apply seems to have passed), so I’d get one in tomorrow if you can. By Friday at the latest.

When you completed the FAFSA, did you get a confirmation? On the bottom should be an estimate of your EFC. That tells you how much of a Pell (federal grant) you may qualify for. A family with an EFC of 0 may qualify for a federal grant of up to about $5,000/year. If the EFC is $1,000, students may get about $4,000. So let us know what your EFC is if you can find it.

Students who qualify for Pell may qualify for a state grant of up to $5,000/year from the NYS TAP (Tuition Assistance Program). Did you link to the NYS HESC TAP application from the FAFSA? Visit the HESC website for directions on how to apply for TAP if you haven’t already. http://www.hesc.ny.gov/pay-for-college/apply-for-financial-aid/nys-tap/apply-for-tap.html

It’s best for students who are interested in med school to graduate with as little debt as possible, so get your applications in as soon as possible in case the other schools don’t work out. I don’t think it’s a good idea for your mom to borrow money for you to go to a school like Hofstra, especially when you may get aid to go to a CUNY.

My efc is 000980 @austinmshauri‌ . And I actually finished ny based financial aid last night. They also told me to apply for aotc

Who told you to apply for aotc, @rhyannag? I’m not familiar with that. Is it some type of grant application?

Do you think your mom will let you apply to a CUNY? I don’t think your other schools are affordable. You can ask your mom to run the Net Price Calculators on their websites to get an estimate of what you’d be expected to pay. Hofstra’s is at http://www.hofstra.edu/admission/adm_netprice.html and Adelphi’s is at https://class.adelphi.edu/npc/?wwizmstr=WEB.NPC.WRAP

I ran both with an income of $40k, 3.0 GPA, and 1450 SAT and got an expected net price (what you’d have to pay each year) of $37k/year for Hofstra and $19k/year for Adelphi. You can only borrow about $5k/year (and you don’t want to as an undergrad if you want to go to med school), and it’s not a good idea for your mom to try to borrow $20k+/year for college either. That’s way too much, especially when you have good, low cost options nearby.

@rhyannag. I went to CCNY for my Undergraduate degree in Engineering and completed my degree in 4-years (136 credits), no summer school and little or no debt. Three months later I went off to one of the top Engineering School for my Masters Degree, which I completed in 10-months. Fortunately, that Degree was paid for my the Company that recruited me out of undergrad. A Few years later I went back to University to a top 5 MBA program.

Community Colleges (CC) do not have the stigma they once had and I have seen a number of Valedictorians attending Community Colleges for two years before moving on to 4-year Colleges. This is primarily due to the escalation in College cost over the past 10-15 years.

Again, you do not have to go to a CC. There are excellent 4-year schools you can attend in New York City, which is blessed with an excellent subway/bus system. You do not want your mother to go into debt for an undergrad degree, especially if you plan on getting an advanced degree.

BTW, have you been on Queens College Campus or any of the other CUNY Schools? I think Hunter College has well respected Nutrition and Food Science (NFS) program if you decide to go that direction. Bottom line, don’t listen to what others are telling you about Community College or even CUNY Schools. It offers excellent pathways to good careers, while minimizing debt. FYI, your grades at Community Colleges do not get transferred to 4-years colleges (putting aside medicine for now), which allows the grades accumulated at your 4-year college to determine the GPA for your Bachelors Degree. No wonder a lot of CC transfer students graduate 4-year institutions with academic honors (Cum Laude, Magna Cum Laude, Summa Cum Laude) after completing their required courses.

sat is actually a 1490, but WOW. Why would I pay so much for hofstra ? 37,000k a year? I think I’m dying right now. I actually just applied to cuny, I haven’t submitted it yet because I’m waiting for my mom to give me her income tax information. This is so tough @austinmshauri‌

It seems tough now, @rhyannag, but once you’re enrolled in classes in the fall, it won’t be. My sister and I attended community colleges in NYS many years ago. We got great educations and graduated with no debt. I transferred to a private college and she ended up at NYU. We have a great system here and you should take advantage of it. And the CUNYs are 4-year schools, right? So you don’t even have to transfer to get a bachelor’s degree. :slight_smile:

CUNY has community colleges - and those aren’t looked at favorably by med schools since they don’t like the lack of rigor in premed classes there. HOWEVER, CUNY also has excellent 4-year schools: CCNY, Hunter, and as a safety for you, CSI. CSI has a decent honors college, but I’m not sure you can qualify even if you apply through EOP (do apply through EOP) - still, it’s worth a shot since EOP means you’ll get extra support and they’ll look at your SAT scores in that light.
(For reference, honors provides you with smaller, more interactive classes.)
Run the NPC for St Lawrence and HWS: their financial aid is much,much better than Hoftra’s or Adelphi, they’re really excellent colleges. Run the Net Price Calculator to see if they’d be affordable.
Use HEOP to see if you can get into St Lawrence or Hobart&William Smith, but if not, CCNY in particular is very good.

You need to start wrapping your head around the fact that premed is going to require a lot of work. That line about not being willing to write an essay to apply for a scholarship concerns me.

@Cshecmia, where did OP say she wasn’t willing to write an essay? I missed that. She said she didn’t know if an essay was required, but she’d look into it. I didn’t see anything to indicate that she’s not willing to write one.

I never said I wasn’t willing to write an essay, I said I didn’t know if it was required. @Cshecmia‌

@austinmshauri‌ just want to say thank you for everything . You’ve been a tremendous help. @MYOS1634‌ thank you also so much

You’re welcome, @rhyannag. Let us know how it works out. Good luck. :slight_smile:

you’re welcome rhyannag. Good luck to you, and do keep us updated. I’ll be watching for your posts, or updates on this thread!

hey guys, I have a friend who has over a 1600 sat score and a 90 GPA but was rejected by stony… he has decent extracurriculars as well. Just wondering why this could have happened.

I’m sorry for your friend. I’m sure he’s disappointed. His GPA is on the lower end of their range. It sounds like his SAT scores may have been as well. I hope he has other acceptances that he’s happy with.

From Stonybrook’s website:

"Academic Profile of Enrolled Freshmen
GPA: mid-50% range 90-96

SAT: mid-50% range for
Critical Reading: 540-650;
Math: 610-710;
Writing: 540-650"

http://www.stonybrook.edu/sb/fastfacts/