<p>rjrzoom57,</p>
<p>I also know a person in c/o 2011 who is prior marine, then to citadel, then to naps. I can’t imagine that we are talking about two different people. Are your son and the prior marine in the same company?</p>
<p>zrm, </p>
<p>I’m not sure, I’ll have to ask him which company the prior/Mid is in again and let you know. He spoke about him last fall shortly after Plebe summer ended as he was impressed with the path the guy took and what he went through to get a slot in the class of 2011. I’ll let you know.</p>
<p>Simayan,</p>
<p>I applied last year and got the same results as you – no NAPs, no NROTC – except there was no B-plan. Every school I applied to rejected me and I had to scramble to research colleges with rolling admissions in May; I remember on the day of graduation finalizing my paperwork for college. I wasn’t sure about applying again, but someone told me that if I could prove to myself in a year I was worth the investment, I could make the application board believe the same. When I met with my BGO before I left in August I remember him telling me that this time applying I had the edge – when giving kids straight out of college an appointment it could go either way, they weren’t a 100% investment. No one goes through the application process twice for fun – they do it because they truly know that the Naval Academy is where they are meant to be. So show them the second time where you were weak you have improved and where you are strong you are even better. Prove to them your drive, your determination, and everything that will make you an invaluable asset to the Navy that they must have you.</p>
<p>I wish you the best and hope you have every luck that I have had applying again.</p>
<p>Clif,</p>
<p>were you accepted to USNA, NAPS or Foundation this year? how did your application go this year?</p>
<p>Once again, thank you to everyone who has replied. I’ve put USNA on the far back burner for now, but I’ll be submitting the preliminary app. on the first of April.</p>
<p>One thing that does give me a lot of hope is that a kid from Norwich was recently appointed from my district. Hopefully Maine can start a trend. Heh.</p>
<p>When I first read about your rejection letter, I looked back at your early threads at your stats…I am still scratching my head over the fact they turned you down…best of luck for the next go round!</p>
<p>I rather call the letter my son received from USNA a “letter of non-appointment” rather than a rejection letter.</p>
<p>Fortunately, he has an NROTC back up plan in place.</p>
<p>If he wishes to reapply to USNA, at what point does he begin this process? How does it differ from the process he just went through?</p>
<p>He would still have to fill out the preliminary application again (comes online April 1st for c/o 2013). From what I’ve heard, everything has to be submitted again except for DoDMERB, which is good for two years.</p>
<p>The process is exactly the same. He will have to resubmit the entire package and redo the CFA. His DoDMERB, however, will remain valid. He will just have to sign an addendum that his health has not changed.</p>
<p>MOC nomination requirements depend strictly on the individual MOCs. Some require complete resubmittal and some require nothing. They will also be eligible for a NROTC nomination of which the unit commandr will have all the particulars.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>If an individual applies a second time, is the process the same regardless of where that kid is as in an NROTC program or not? Or is an NROTC nomination from the unit commander considered as an alternative nominating source exclusive of the “normal requirements”; MOC etc? Or does the kid still have to solicit a nomination from his MOC and get one from his/her unit commander? </p>
<p>Is there a cap on the number of nominations available to each NROTC unit? Do they just get one or?</p>
<p>What items from the application would remain the same? High School teachers? SAT scores? High School activities? Counselor evaluation?</p>
<p>I would also imagine that first semester college grades would be required?</p>
<p>The process is exactly the same regardless of NROTC or not. They will be advised by the CGO again to seek nominations from all sources for which they are eligible.</p>
<p>Honestly, the NROTC nomination is somewhat overrated. The Academy can only select a maximum of 20, I think, primary ROTC nominations each year, to include all of NROTC, NJROTC, and honors AFJROTC and AJROTC units inclusively. It does count as an alternate nomintion for entry into the national pool but one who would have to rely soley on it for admissions is probably not competitive anyway.</p>
<p>They will normally wait until after evaluating first semester grades to make a decision.</p>
<p>So, they will look back to 11th grade English and Math teacher evalutations? Or will that be updated to 12th grade teachers? (I hope not for the 12th grade teachers, as my son’s English and Math teachers this year are both flakes! I’ve seen them with my own eyes!)</p>
<p>What I would suggest is calling your moc office and speak to the person handling the academy nominations- some will hold onto the file for the next admission cycle, which may save you some work, while others may require you to start from scratch.</p>
<p>First semester college grades will need to be submitted, as will letters of recommendation from current teachers. The game begins anew. SAT scores remain the same, however college grades will factor in more as they are an “actual” marker and not a “predictive” one. Activites may or may not change- one would hope the applicant would continue to develop, thus expanding on what is already there. Ditto for CFA- continue to work on improving scores.</p>
<p>What I might suggest is contacting your BGO and ask where your application is weak- and concentrate on those areas to demonstrate and improvement. The good news is that 1/3 of the admissions class have some post-HS education behind them- you are in good company, and tossing your hat into the ring for a second time certainly speaks to motivation and determination! Just make sure the rest of your “package” speaks as loudly!<br>
Best of luck!!!</p>
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<p>SAT scores can be resent, but it’s usually a good idea to take them again. Teacher evaluations still have to be resubmitted (not sure how the counselor portion works - may be waived for college students), but high school activities can still be mentioned, especially if you were in a leadership position.</p>
<p>However, college participation is still very important. Those in a Cadet program at a Senior Military College most likely have less expected of them - as far as campus involvement goes - than “civilian” college students (after all, some of those schools can rival the academy in time demands). Participating in a sport of some kind is a still a must, though.</p>
<p>not sure I would agree to retake SATs…
I suppose it depends on what you are doing for the year and where you are doing it. If you are earning college credit, forget the SATs and take courses aligned with those taken during plebe year… calc, chem and english lit. Nail them.</p>
<p>If your SAT scores are below 600/600, retake them. I think college students have more leeway in submitting recommendations, etc. but not sure. I am checking and will post when I find out for sure what the exact policy is.</p>
<p>Thanks for the advice about the MOCs and SATs. We are in a very competitve state, and he was interviewed by both Senators (who only interview a selective group) and our Congressman. He got nominations from our Congressman and one Senator. He got a “form” letter from the other Senator to say his credentials were excellent, and he would be considered next year for a nomination if he chooses to do so.</p>
<p>I’m not sure his BGO will be very informative. He has been rather uninvolved. </p>
<p>Looking back, perhaps his choices of taking college credit and honors classes, rather than AP might have been a weakness. His CFA, he admits, should have been stronger (he is working on that now in preparatin for NROTC participation.)</p>
<p>Another question is, how much can a personal statement on the USNA application change? He says he feels as strongly today as he did when he wrote it. Does the essay have to be totally different? That would be very difficult if the reason for applying to USNA hasn’t changed.</p>
<p>Perhaps all of this is moot questioning, as he may love NROTC, and may well feel that that is the route he will continue to take. But, knowledge about the process is important, nonetheless.</p>
<p>So, thanks for advice!</p>
<p>Navy 2010: Why chem, not physics??? (Even his letter from USNA suggested Chem)</p>
<p>i have a question about sports. so say that you’re in a corps of cadets program (say at VMI or the Citadel). to be in a varsity sport (NCAA!) will take a minimum of 25hrs/week of practice. that combined with drilling and PT is time away from studying.</p>
<p>is it really that important to be an NCAA athlete if you are applying from a college NROTC corps of cadet program?</p>
<p>or could you make up for it in some other way?</p>
<p>i definitely have enough sports (i think) to apply to USNA from high school, but next year in college, i’m not sure, since to be an NCAA athlete is a huge commitment which will certainly hit my grades.</p>
<p>do the BGO’s here have any advice about this?</p>