<p>the only schools I’m applying to that don’t allow score choice are Columbia, Yale, and Stanford (the latter two are super reaches anyway).</p>
<p>Will Columbia really care?</p>
<p>Colleges don’t like seeing 4+ SAT tests but a 2300 is still impressive after 4 tries.</p>
<p>You did not score an 800 in M and W on the same test date. Colleges will see that you took the SAT at least 2 times, 3 if you retake it and improve on Reading. And they will probably infer that you took the SAT I in March, May, and/or June since you didn’t score your 800 until October, and it is highly improbable an applicant first took the SAT in October of his senior year. So even if you don’t retake, HYPSMC will probably assume you took the SAT 3-4 times.</p>
<p>2300 is good, but taking 5 times, will look pretty bad. Even if you’re able to hide 1 test, 4 is still somewhat bad too.</p>
<p>You know and I know you need a 760+ in math if you are to have a chance.</p>
<p>Sorry Sheep, should have said reading</p>
<p>Why did you take chem 3 times? I took it once and was done. And they say you should take the SAT twice, three times tops. Anything above that the colleges think that they could be doing something better with their time than being over consumed with this one test for an extra 50 points. Taking it 4 times was a bad idea, don’t make it worse than it already is.</p>
<p>Sheep:</p>
<p>I would urge you to take it again.</p>
<p>You have nothing to lose, and the top schools are so competitive that every little bit helps.</p>
<p>However, isn’t it too late to take the SAT for Fall 2012 admission?.</p>
<p>Why not shoot for the stars?</p>
<p>I think that is really what you want to do.</p>
<p>The scores and numbers of attempts show up in all kinds of unexpected places- often on high school transcripts, so there’s a very good chance they will know you’ve taken it 4 times already. If you don’t get into a school it won’t be because your score was only 2300! Don’t waste your time and money- spend that time rewriting your essays instead-</p>
<p>Yes Columbia will care. Not following their rules is an easy way for them to eliminate you- they have many thousands of others who are following the rules!</p>
<p>I don’t understand how spending 1 saturday morning taking an exam takes a lot of time away from EC activities. Unless you study of course, but colleges can’t possibly know that or if you just retake the SAT without any prep</p>
<p>wow guys… didn’t even study in between. As cortana pointed out I wasted a few saturday mornings. I would have spent those few hours time sleeping in or maybe playing baseball etc…, not writing college essays.</p>
<p>First of all, I don’t think admissions officers analyze the dates you took the SAT. Also, I’m going to send the June/November SAT anyways, so they won’t assume I took it 3 times. They will probably erroneously think I didn’t take in october, and instead assume I was studying up on my grammar (which I really wasn’t).</p>
<p>Reasons I took chem 3 times:
[ul]
[<em>] wasn’t satisfied with my 650 so I decided to take it a second time
[</em>] got a 760 second time, and was satisfied
[<em>] took Physics B, and felt that I had learned a lot, so I wanted to take SAT Physics
[</em>] due to the fact that I was already at the test center for SAT physics, I figured I might as well waste another hour of my time and take SAT chemistry again
[li] I thought I would improve from 760 since I qualified for USNCO[/li][/ul]</p>
<p>^^^doonerak… I already saw my highschool transcript (my situation is complicated, so they had me read it over) and there was absolutely no indication of how many times it was taken.</p>
<p>This is besides the point, but because I submitted some of my applications (along with transcripts) BEFORE I took the SAT a 4th time, there would be absolutely no way for that to be there.</p>
<p>Here is what the colleges that accept score choice will see (this is what my sent score reports looks like essentially):</p>
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<p>You better take it again because a 2300 with a 700 is not going to cut it.</p>
<p>You need at least a 760 or forget it.</p>
<p>Open your eyes Sheep. I’ve got a 2360, 800 US History subj test, 790 Lit subj test (universally recognized as hardest subj test), I have a 4.00, and I compete athletically at an international level. You do know a 700 is less than 25% at any decent school and if you factor out minorities ect, its substantially higher. Plus your totally ****ed demographically as NY is one of the most competitive states in America. I on the other hand am from a small town in the south and I happen to be going for the same schools you are, Yale first and foremost. Who do you think is going to win that one?</p>
<p>Sounds like Wake Forest/Michigan is more your speed</p>
<p>PS: The extended time thing on the SAT counts you out before you even start, you think Yale doesn’t notice the exploitation you con-men in the Northeast are so well known for using. The extra time and hopped up on some prescribed substance is a huge red flag and given the weakness of the rest of your app you might want to just bow out now to avoid the embarrassment.</p>
<p>^First off, I’m not interested in Yale.</p>
<p>Second, 2360 isn’t that much better than a 2300. Also, 790 Lit isn’t better than 800Math2/physics, because 800 Physics demonstrates that you hit the ceiling. They have no idea how good I really am. I could have made USAPhO for all they know…</p>
<p>Why would you retake a 2300?.. you know that’s higher than 99% of students nationwide?</p>
<p>Please ignore the trolls above…</p>
<p>@Sheepsgetkilled - I would recommend that you take a look at the EA and RD results threads from Harvard, Princeton, Duke, Brown, and Caltech, and Columbia, (as well as anywhere else you’re applying, obviously).</p>
<p>The first thing you’ll notice is that the number of 2400 applicants that get rejected/deferred is virtually the same as the number of 2250+ applicants that are rejected/deferred. There is, of course, a slight difference, but I’d wager that that difference stems from the fact that 2400 applicants are habitually involved in more impressive ECs, etc. </p>
<p>The fact is, all of the above listed colleges could care less whether you have a 2300, a 2310, or, for that matter, a 2400. Elite colleges use the SAT as a test to determine whether you’re capable of doing the work that you’ll be assigned if you matriculate. That’s all. A 2300 demonstrates that you’re able to do the work, period. After a certain level (probably about 2250) they’ll put a check mark next to your SAT scores and move on to the rest of your application.</p>
<p>I took the SAT in June with no prep and got a 2000. Prepped a little (about half the blue book), retook it in October, and got a 2270. Nothing stellar, but enough to earn the checkmark. I had an on-campus interview at Yale after I got the October scores; the adcom told me I’d wasted my time retaking it, because even the 2200 was enough for them to see that I was capable of doing the work. </p>
<p>So sleep in on Saturday.</p>
<p>You are wrong, check silver turtles work. Average Cut off seems to be around 2310, then 2360 if unhooked, also need 3.90+ gpa.</p>