Rising CAS Economics junior answering questions

<p>I graduated high school back in 2012 and got accepted to Boston University, UC Santa Barbara, Pepperdine,and NYU. I also got waitlisted at Lehigh and Emory but didn't want to bother with the waitlist process so I chose to go to NYU.</p>

<p>Some background:
Initially I got into LSP (Liberal Studies Program) as undecided and recently transferred to CAS. I declared economics as a major and business studies as a minor my sophomore year. I chose those two combinations in particular because I want to go into management consulting, and economics is a traditional feeder for that industry.</p>

<p>People have asked me why I'm not in Stern. If I had wanted to do something purely business-related like investment banking/private equity (the stereotypical employment destination for finance majors) or accounting, it might have been a different story. But I want a "hybrid" experience; while consulting certainly has business aspects, it's not pure business. It covers non-business sectors as well, and I want that diversification of perspectives.</p>

<p>With that said, ask away!</p>

<p>Im an incoming freshman for NYU CAS for Econ. Can you start minoring in business studies your freshman year or is that done in later years? How hard is it to transfer from CAS to Stern and when can that be done? Also, are CAS econ graduates overshadowed by Stern Econ graduates in recruitment? Thanks</p>

<p>@sonsson‌<br>
It’s possible to start minoring in business studies your freshman year because most of the required classes for it overlap with Stern transfer requirements. Since I started off with LSP I’m not completely sure what the CAS core requirements are, but I’d assume you still have to take a few required classes like Writing the Essay your freshman year. So I’m not sure if you’ll have the space in your schedule to take business classes. Of course, if you have room for electives then by all means go ahead and apply for Stern classes. Having lots of Stern classes in your transcript will make it look more favorable during the transfer application.</p>

<p>Internal transfer application opens in the middle of spring semester, sometime around late February/early March. The deadline is late March and results come in around early-mid May. You can apply once per year, up to your sophomore year.</p>

<p>Stern transfer is possible, and I’d encourage you to apply if you truly feel that Stern is a better environment for you than CAS (in other words, do your research when you get to NYU and talk to lots of Sternies). However, I’ve met lots of transfer-hopefuls who only wanted to get in because of the name value. You’ll need a compelling reason that makes you stand out when you apply.</p>

<p>CAS Econ graduates are definitely not overshadowed by Stern. Sometimes I even hear Sternies complaining about how many offers CAS kids received (though this should be taken with a grain of salt since CAS Econ is bigger than Stern). Now, it’s true that Stern finance has that name value which gives a bit of an edge, and Stern in general has a stronger alumni database than CAS. But it’s about playing your cards correctly. A lack of a Stern affiliation on your resume doesn’t harm you. Focus on your strengths and build your resume. To give you some perspective, I once had an interview at a hedge fund, and the recruiter later told me that I was the first kid from CAS to be considered in favor of Sternies, because I had prior relevant work experience. Furthermore I have friends from Poly, Gallatin, and even Tisch who received offers in Bulge Brackets. The moral is how you make yourself marketable.</p>

<p>Hi. I’m a rising senior in high school. I have a 3.61 from a tough private school (I know it’s on the low side), but a 35 ACT. I also have unique ECs and have started a few companies myself.</p>

<p>I actually just got home from the summer music business course at NYU Steinhardt and fell in love with NYU, however, even though I’m a musician, I don’t want to do music business.</p>

<p>I originally had my heart set on management consulting (BCG, McKinsey), however I know I would like to go into investment banking/private equity.</p>

<p>I have a couple of questions if you don’t mind. NYU is where I want to go for sure and I would love to end up in Stern with a Finance major and Entertainment business minor which they offer.</p>

<p>I feel like I could easily get into the Steinhardt music business course, except that’s not the degree I want to end up with as above. That being said, would it be easier for me to apply to that Steinhardt program early decision, get in, and then internally transfer to stern. Or do I have a better shot just applying early decision to Stern in the first place?</p>

<p>Lastly, I notice on the Common App that NYU allows you to select two schools in case you don’t get into your first choice. Can you explain this please? Does this mean I could put Stern down as my top choice and if I don’t get in, they will see if I can get into Steinhardt?</p>

<p>I appreciate the help!</p>

<p>@youngandtired‌ several people already answered your question on the thread that you made and I don’t know why you expect different answers here. I cannot say this enough: IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO INTERNALLY TRANSFER INTO STERN. If you try, you’ll most likely be stuck in a program that you don’t want to be in. Just apply to Stern directly. The two schools thing means what you think it does, but again, you’re stuck with the same situation should you get rejected from Stern and admitted to Steinhardt.</p>

<p>Oh I thought they were two separate forums. I apologize. Just wanted some advice from this guy who’s already at NYU</p>

<p>Well, seeing as the people who replied to your other post were an NYU grad (me) and a former NYU parent, we do tend to know what we’re talking about. The Stern transfer question has been asked and answered more times than I can count on here, and the advice is always the same.</p>

<p>@someguyincollege Thanks for the response. According to the course description, I have the pre-req’s to take Intermediate Micro this fall. Do you think going straight into Intermediate Micro is extremely difficult as a first year student? Do you advise to rather take Intro to Micro/Macro first? I got a 4 on AP Micro, 5 on AP Calc AB, and an A in Macro at a Community college. Thanks!</p>

<p>Hello, I am a rising high school senior and i absolutely love NYU. I have recently stumbled across the existence of the liberal studies program and think it may be a match for me. Unfortunately, I have had little luck finding more information about it. That being said, if you could further elaborate on your LSP experience as a whole, it would be greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>Sorry I haven’t been responding! I’m in vacation so Internet access isn’t very stable, but I promise to respond to all of your questions!</p>

<p>@youngandtired‌ </p>

<p>I guess jazzcatastrophe is correct. I don’t really know much about the likelihood of internally transferring from Steinhardt to Stern, though I do have one friend who managed to do that. He kept his grades high and made sure to take plenty of Stern courses before applying for the transfer. He’s actually in management consulting too, and graduated this past summer with an offer from EY advisory.</p>

<p>You’ve probably heard this from plenty of others, but Stern transfer is almost entirely dependent on your academic performance and the amount of Stern and/or math (preferably both, like Stats) classes you’ve taken and how well you did on those.</p>

<p>I don’t know that much about music business, as Steinhardt is outside of my knowledge. I’d ask the Steinhardt department if you had questions about those.</p>

<p>@sonsson‌ </p>

<p>I’m actually going to take intermediate micro this upcoming semester, so I can’t tell you with full authority, but I have friends who have taken them already. They say that it’s a drastic step up in difficulty from intro micro/macro classes, and you actually need to attend classes. You can manage to slack off a bit in Intro classes (though I’m in no way encouraging this!), but it seems intermediate classes are a different story. So if you can manage to handle the workload and discipline yourself, then I’d say go for it, since it’ll put you at an advantage above other economics peers.</p>

<p>But don’t feel rushed to do it. Personally I’d take an intro micro course first just to get used to the pace of college life. Intro micro is cakewalk if you stay on par with the readings, so classes aren’t what I’d worry about, but some people tend to be affected by transitions into college life. So minimizing risks is a good idea. All up to you in the end.</p>

<p>@sammr19‌ </p>

<p>LSP was… interesting, to say the least. In your LSP classes you’re placed into classes with no more than 25 students per room, so it might feel a lot like high school all over again.
Your pre-reqs for freshman year almost completely steer your schedule, as you have to take Cultural Foundations, Social Foundations, and Writing, all 2 semesters each. That leaves you one elective space, which students take intro level classes of their intended majors. Undecided students use them to tackle other pre-reqs like Life Science requirements.
Because there are so many different faculty in LSP due to the nature of class sizes, it’s a varied experience. I lucked out and had fantastic professors so my freshman year was a breeze, but I know of friends who had professors who weren’t as well equipped for teaching, so their experience was a bit darker.
In general, you’ll be learning about culture and humanities. CF will entail cultural details of civilizations and analyzing them, while SF is more philosophical, such as Socrates’ allegory of the cave or Hobbes’ view of the government in his book Leviathan. Writing is a godsend because although you have to take two semesters of it, you don’t have to take the dreaded Writing the Essay, which most students wouldn’t touch with a yardstick.</p>

<p>Hope that helps!</p>