Rumor that HS class of 2012/College 2016 not as competitve as 2011/2015?any truth?

<p>Kinda crazy, but this applies to my school as well. I think my class only had like 5 people (including myself and guessing mystery peoples who don’t talk about their scores) to get above 2000 on the SATs. </p>

<p>Jeez, where did we go wrong class of 2012? >_></p>

<p>The raw number of college applicants may have dropped by a few %age points. However, economic uncertainty remains high, and college admissions hysteria does not seem to have decreased. Applications at elite need-blind colleges like the Ivies/Stanford/MIT should remain very high. Harvard should still get its 30,000 applications.</p>

<p>That’s weird because it is the opposite at my school lol.
Class of 2012 >>> Class of 2011.
There’ll be twice as many NMFs, I know >10 people with ACT scores of over 34 in a class off 230.</p>

<p>any numbers to back this up besides miniscule sample size/ availability heuristics?</p>

<p>Yeah right, no way to know this</p>

<p>Yah there’s no way to prove this…at my school 2012 > 2011 by far (we have 4 NMSFs and 10 commended, 2011 only had 2 commended and no SFs), and 2012 class is ultra competitive and in general just smarter, with higher test scores and higher college aspirations.</p>

<p>You are competing against your own class 2012, not 2011.</p>

<p>For many top universities, the percent of applicants admitted had dropped any from 5-10% in only one year. As an example, last year Northwestern’s acceptance rate was 25%. This year it was 18%. the class of 2011 was so much more competitive than any other class before it, so there’s a good chance your rumor is true.</p>

<p>Considering my school averages 10-20 Valedictorians (16 for the class of 2011), I find it hard to believe. This last class was stellar in my area, and tough to beat, but we have plenty of talented students that will keep admissions and scholarship competitions harsh in my area. (North-Eastern Iowa)</p>

<p>I don’t know about qualitative measurements between the class of 2011 and 2012, but according to this chart: </p>

<p>[Table</a> 24. Actual and projected numbers for high school graduates, by control of school: 1991–92 through 2016–17](<a href=“http://nces.ed.gov/programs/projections/projections2016/tables/table_24.asp?referrer=list]Table”>http://nces.ed.gov/programs/projections/projections2016/tables/table_24.asp?referrer=list)</p>

<p>there will be about 44,000 fewer high school graduates in 2012 than in 2011, a drop of 1.3%. The projected trend shows continued small decreases through 2014 then an uptick beginning 2015. So from a simple “numbers” point of view, 2012 should be slightly less competitive than 2011.</p>

<p>Not true Huxley, because that “drop” isn’t coming from the high-achieving Ivy candidates, but rather the lowest soceoeconomic group that wont be applying to the top schools. Thus, we still have no idea if it will be as competative or not as 2011.</p>

<p>Axel3419:</p>

<p>Good point. I simply meant that there will be fewer graduates chasing about the same number of college admission slots.</p>

<p>Couldn’t it just mean there are less 2012ers than previous classes? i.e. There are just less people, not a greater number of people dropping out/not graduating.</p>

<p>Not true at my school… 2012 is stronger than 2011 by far. I think it doesn’t matter overall which is stronger. You are essentially competing with those in your own school.</p>

<p>nina1228:</p>

<p>I looked for this but could not find current U. S. population of 18 yer olds and the projected number for 2012. However here are the birth rates for 1992 (class of 2011) and 1993 (class of 2012):</p>

<p>1992: 4,084,000
1993: 4,039,000</p>

<p>So it’s likely you’re right. </p>

<p>[Live</a> Births and Birth Rates, by Year — Infoplease.com](<a href=“Columbia Encyclopedia | Infoplease”>Live Births and Birth Rates, by Year)</p>

<p>In that case, you are right, TECHNICALLY it should be easier because there are less of us, but I can’t see that having a huge impact on admission percentages. I guess we’ll see in April :stuck_out_tongue: I hope you are right, though.</p>

<p>@ HuxleyAlum</p>

<p>I think most of the class of 2012 was born in 1994…</p>

<p>gerian:</p>

<p>You’re right, but trend remains the same, birth rates down:</p>

<p>1992: 4,084,000
1993: 4,039,000
1994: 3,979,000</p>

<p>[Live</a> Births and Birth Rates, by Year — Infoplease.com](<a href=“Columbia Encyclopedia | Infoplease”>Live Births and Birth Rates, by Year)</p>

<p>It’s true at my school as well.</p>

<p>But whatever, getting into a good school will be easier for me then!!! :D</p>

<p>On another note, people will be applying to more and more colleges, so it will still be hard to get into a good school.</p>

<p>Harvard will always take the same type of kids it has always wanted, nothing less.</p>

<p>Sorry to shoot some of your dreams out of the sky lolz</p>