SAT II Chinese

<p>ok let me break it down...</p>

<p>Recent Chinese immigrant ( immigrated after elementary school )
Pros : Strong Chinese - Advantage @ SAT II Chinese, most likely (98%) scoring a 800</p>

<h2>Cons : Weak English - Disadvantage @ both critical reading and writing sections</h2>

<p>ABC ( America(n) Born Chinese ) <== Chinese who has been raised in U.S.
Pros : Better Communication Skills
Better English than Recent Chinese Immigrants - Generally a bit Better @ SAT English</p>

<p>Cons : Weak Chinese ( almost no ability to read chinese newspaper, and unable to communicate) - Hard to Achieve 750+ in Chinese SAT II</p>

<h2> Weaker English Skills than Americans if the parents were the first generation of Chinese immigrants in the family (incapable of speaking english)</h2>

<p>Americans
Pros : Strongest Communication Skills
Strongest English Skills among the 3 types of people - Easier to Achieve High SAT I Scores ( CR + W > M )</p>

<h2>Cons : No 2nd Language, but w/ effort and School Courses, it is easy to achieve a noticible achievement</h2>

<p>All of these are the BASICS, ofcourse, there are exceptions, those who are extremely intelligent, and those who are extremely hardworking.</p>

<p>IMO : It's easier ( advantage ) for Americans to Raise their SAT I scores, and the SAT is practically to their BEST advantage
1-CR + W = 1400 ( If you're @ a degree of intelligent, you will be able to goto a college you DESERVE )
2-SAT II Language ISN'T the only SAT II you HAVE TO take ( there are around 10-15? if not more SAT IIs to choose from... )</p>

<p>therefore -</p>

<p>Americans > Chinese
SAT I > SAT II
easier > hardwork to achieve the same level</p>

<p>lol nice...</p>

<p>My son is caucasian, native english speaker. No one else in our family is at all Chinese or knows Chinese at all. He learned Mandarin in school. He got a 750 on the Chinese SAT 2. Since this is only in the 50th percentile, should he include this SAT 2 score in his college application?</p>

<p>BY the way. He is also learning spanish and he will be the first to tell you that learning to speak, read and write in Chinese is at least 10 times harder and ten times more time consuming than learning spanish.</p>

<p>wondering mum, i would say yes. 750 for an english speaker is very impressive. be sure to make it clear to colleges that he only learns it at school..</p>

<p>It's DEFINITELY an achievement imo, therefore, he should report his SAT II Chinese score, especially when he's a native English speaker !</p>

<p>PS: it IS harder to learn Chinese than to learn most other languages :D</p>

<p>OK i have a (stupid) question. I heard that there are 4 forms of chinese on the test (Simplified, traditional, hanyupinyin(something like that), and the Old Style Pinyin(Now used my Taiwan) )
DO WE HAVE TO KNOW ALL 4 TO TAKE THE TEST or WE CAN SIMPLY PICK A FORM AND STICK WITH IT TO THE END OF THE EXAM?</p>

<p>I would think that you would only have to take one form.</p>

<p>you WOULD THINK? HOW SURE ARE YOU? 100%?</p>

<p>all 4 are available you can read whatever form you like.</p>

<p>So, are you saying that if I take the SAT Chinese, I don't have to be able to read or write Chinese at all, and just take the pinyin form? Or, do they mix symbols in with pinyin in the pinyin form?</p>

<p>They do give you 4 forms, but aren't there reading sections and certain questions that only use hanzi (simplified or traditional)?</p>

<p>you only need to know one of the forms to be able to answer the questions.</p>

<p>I'm Chinese, and i'm applying to the Ivies. How will it look if i take Chinese as one of the three SAT2 requirement? Will the Universities disregard it even if i get an excellent score?</p>

<p>Well, from what I've read so far, it seems excellent scores on the Chinese SAT2 are pretty common. I think they'd like it better if you took a more challenging SAT II.</p>

<p>I've been told the same thing too, but actually a lot of American-Chinese people can't read/write Chinese (or at least in my area), so I think it does count for something. It's just that the Chinese people who can read/write are the ones that take the test and they always do really well. Also, I'm hoping colleges will value Chinese more because of the whole China-could-be-next-superpower thing, so maybe they'll think that having a bunch of people who are good at Chinese isn't a bad thing.</p>

<p>My question is, if I don't take the Chinese SAT II, will colleges just assume that you're not very good at Chinese or don't know it?</p>

<p>when u guys say native chinese speakers or learning chinese from your parents, does that include learning chinese from chinese school? i came to the US from china before kindergarten and i don't really speak it at home. i've also forgotten most of it and i learn most of the language from chinese school. in that case, would taking the test still be useless if i mentioned it in my app?</p>

<p>I think it would...you have a Chinese last name...</p>

<p>ok, great. oh well, already signed up for the test today. chances are i wont get an 800 since i cant read that well!</p>

<p>If you are did not learn your China but learned your Chinese here (Chinese school) you should state it in your resume to college. It counts as after-school learning activating and admission office can’t take off points for that.</p>

<p>According to collegeboard, there are 3 sections
Listening : no text
Usage: 4 choices, characters or romanization
Reading comprehension: Traditional/Simplified characters</p>

<p>That is UNCOOL. Thought the whole test was romanized. -o-</p>