Saturday at the Square

<p>For any of you who got the invites, what was the date postmarked? (when were they sent out?)</p>

<p>Congrats to the posters on here--but some of these stats make no sense.</p>

<p>For example, take scrapnel--who posted that he/she had a 4.74 W GPA, but was only 65/852 in class rank. The 4.74 means that the person had to take nothing but honors classes (IBs and APs) for a minimum of 3 full years and get nothing but As in all classes attempted. But then they wouldn't be 65/852 since with nothing but As they would have to be 1/852. Therefore this means they took 3 1/2 to 4 years of nothing but honors classes, and got a B in one or two classes, but that 7% of their graduating class did better than that (though not necessarily in honors classes)--which also makes no sense because if you can get all As you are going to attempt at least some honors classes. But then whether in honors or not, these people got all As in more classes than scrapnel.</p>

<p>All I can figure out is this person goes to a high school that must be the easiest grading school in the history of high schools--since 7% of the students had to get something like 3.9 GPAs or above for this to be true. Either that or I guess Houston has the smartest students in the country since so many students are all at the 3.9 GPA level and above. Like I said--the statistics make no sense. </p>

<p>Nevertheless, I wish these people well at NYU's Tisch School. I have a feeling they will find the grading at NYU (which is famous for their tremendously difficult grading breakdown at the Stern Business School) a lot more difficult than the grading curve at their high schools.</p>

<p>Calcruzer: I know at my school, our rank isn't weighted. I have a 3.7, with As and high Bs in all my gifted/honors/AP classes. My weighted GPA is only a 3.8 because it ONLY takes into account AP classes (and it doesn't have my senior grades calculated in yet). </p>

<p>Thus, lots of kids who have higher ranks than me have taken gym, work-study, library aid, etc. and gotten easy 100s in 1-3 classes a year; and most drop a foreign language senior year. Our salutarian dropped out of the gifted program because it might hurt her GPA, and wouldn't take AP English for the same reason. LOTS of kids feel this way. My rank is only 78/375 and I've taken 2-4 (most possible, essentially) gifted/honors/AP classes a year (out of a total of six classes).</p>

<p>actually, at my school it's out of a 6.0 rank. so i had a 4.75 out of 6.0. but we are required to take many regulars classes (that only go up to 5.0) in order to graduate. why? i dont know, its just how it is (the gpa for our valedictorian was about a 5.5). and my high school is one of the most competitive schools in our area. we are always #1 in our district and region, and are competitive on a state level.</p>

<p>next time, i would advise against giving a lecture about a grading system you don't really know anything about. especially when it has absolutely no relevance to the topic.......</p>

<p>;-D</p>

<p>scrapnel, I was trying to defend you LOL! I meant to say that even if your rank is low, it doesn't mean anything because you obviously deserve it, you know?</p>

<p>oh no! i wasnt talking to you! i knew that! sorry!! i was talking to Calcruzer as well.</p>

<p>hahhah sorry about the confusion! i appreciate your help =)</p>

<p>Oh ok, no harm done then. :-P</p>

<p>=)</p>

<p>love to all! yayyy!!!!</p>

<p>=) =) =)</p>

<p>scrapnel, congratulations to you again--I'm glad you got into NYU and into the school you are most interested in.</p>

<p>Now having said that, let me tell you that when you post a GPA as a 4.7 or 4.8 weighted on this site, people are going to presume that it means you are ranking yourself on a 4.0 scale and anything over a 4.0 is based upon having taken honors courses such as IB or AP.</p>

<p>Nobody--and I mean nobody--is going to presume that your school is ranking at a 6.0 scale unless you tell them. The whole reason that people post GPAs and ECs and SAT scores is so that others can use these as a measure for what it takes to get into NYU or into Tisch. Posting a 4.8 in your case without indicating that it is based on a 6.0 scale is entire misleading--which I think you already know.</p>

<p>So, yes I will lecture you--on being deceiving in your original post--by not indicating that your GPA score was based upon a 6.0 scale. Sorry, but facts are facts.</p>

<p>I have a question for themagster. You say that many people at your school take a bunch of easy classes (1 to 3 per year) to keep their GPAs up high (since you are referring to students whose GPAs are higher than yours, that means at least at the 3.71 level).</p>

<p>My question is: "Why would these students do this?--I'm not questioning your honesty or the validity of what you are saying, but really, why would these students do this?" They must be smart enough to realize that taking a bunch of simple courses will not help them in getting into "prestige" colleges, nor will it help them develop the drive to succeed, either in college or in life.</p>

<p>Thus, they are just shortchanging themselves over the long run. Is it some kind of parental pressure, or some kind of ego thing where they want to have a high GPA in high school to get some high school academic award or something? This seems like an awful waste of potential talent.</p>

<p>Clacruzer, most don't care about "prestige" colleges. Most people are going to in-state schools that are easier to get into it (UGA, Georgia Tech, Georgai Southern, etc.). I'm not saying everyone does it, but a lot it seems does. While our school is actually somewhat competitive (for a GA high school at least; our mean SAT is like 1110 I think), since a public GA college (including UGA and Ga Tech) is FREE tuition to anyone who graduates with a B average.</p>

<p>themagster is right, my school is the same way - I'm 9/426 at my school, I could be close to the very very top, but that's because I take theatre classes (that take a lot of work, actually) which don't have honors weight... but other kids at the very top take the "slack" honors classes (at our school, we allll know what they are - computer applications, webmaster, etc... you sit there and breathe for an A) or they become student aides and don't have to worry about another non-honors grade bringing them down. students don't care, b/c everyone goes to VA schools in VA! at my school at least. haha.
it's sad I know, but oh welll, their loss...</p>

<p>Now, let's try to keep this thread the happy, congratulatory "Saturday at the Square" thread that it is! or was...or mostly is... :)</p>

<p>yup, you caught me. my entire point in making that post with my stats was to deceive people into believing my gpa is higher than it is. we cant even think that perhaps i was just too excited to pay attention to what exactly i was posting. or that all the schools my friends go to grade on a similar scale so im really not too familiar with how other grading scales work and dont think about it too much. no, no of course not. I AM THE MASTER OF DECEPTION! GO ME! =)</p>

<p>(actually the whole gpa thing is really confusing to me since all the schools around here do it so differently than apparently everyone else does. its like....out of 5....but up to 6 if its an honors/ap class...but only up to 5.5 if its an "advanced" class...and you still have to take about 10 5.0 classes to graduate...plus we switched to that the middle of my freshman year or something. its all strange. but thats how everyone around here does it and its what im used to. still havent figured how to convert it to a 4.0 scale. but, no matter! got into nyu, dont really care bout my high school gpa anymore)</p>

<p>anyway =) tawny, i agree, i want to know how many people get invited to this thing every year.</p>

<p>i dont think ill be going though, its a bit far away from texas. funny thing? ive never even been to new york at all! i only applied to nyu and university of texas though (one of the places where everyone from my high school is going....there, a&m, texas tech, texas state, or tcu. even our valedictorian and salutatorian are going to ut!), so it really isnt much of a hard choice. film in new york? or film in texas? hmm....possible future? no possible future? gee, tough one =)</p>

<p>scrapnel, great post! You're going to do just fine at NYU. :) </p>

<p>And as far as the gpa thing goes, don't worry about anyone else's opinion, especially that of a rude parent. When NYU looks at transcripts, they recalculate EVERYone's gpa so it doesn't matter how your own school does it.</p>

<p>hehe thanks! =P</p>

<p>Location: Washington State
GPA: 4.0 UW
Rank: 1/483
SAT I: 2220 (740 M, 800 V, 680 W)
SAT II: 750 Math Level 2, 710 Literature, 740 Bio M
EC's: Several prominent leadership/ECs.</p>

<p>sweet dude, whats your major?</p>

<p>Congratulations to all the people receiving acceptance letter. I will back out now and let you enjoy your good news. My intent was not to create disharmony, just to try and compute the chances of my own son's admittance to NYU.</p>

<p>whoops nevermind, im going now. see you guys there?</p>

<p>I got Sunday at the Square for CAS- but I can't make it... do you still get scholarship money if you don't show up and they were going to give you scholarship money there?
Location: Philadelphia
SATs: 1440/1600; 2210/2400 (770 W, 770 V, 670 M)
SAT IIs: 740 W, 760 US History, 690 Literature
GPA: 3.9 UW, 4.33 W
Extracurriculars: EEC (9,10,11,12) , Newspaper Editor, Yoga Club President, French and German Clubs (9,10,11,12), Model UN (10,11,12), Music Club President and Founder, SGA, NHS (11, 12), Community Service Award Recipient, Anti-Tobacco Educator (9,10,11,12), Summer@Brown, People2People, Yearbook (9,10,11), SADD (9,10)
Recs: Pretty awesome</p>