<p>I think it’s harder for asian applicants. My kids are white. I think it will be hard for my DD but my very academic white boy son had sort of a hook in the age of the slacker white boy. </p>
<p>I don’t know why so many on CC work so hard to try to prove there is no anti-Asian bias. It has seemed pretty obvious to me and my kids for a long time.</p>
<p>I don’t think holding up stats saying Asians are accepted in greater proportion to their percentage of the overall population has any meaning whatsoever. It’s about the criteria applied for being accepted to specific racial groups and that is just not cool and it’s not going away.</p>
It’s tough to get hard evidence when the process lacks transparency. But it certainly doesn’t smell right, does it? What does that suggest?</p>
<p>I’d like to see a little sunshine. My life experience says that there’s a problem here, and I think you’ve got your head in the sand - but we’re both just guessing, you and me. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, the horse is most definitely alive.</p>
<p>Because there’s no evidence to support it, in spite of all the whining by some people who apparently need substitutes for the unpleasant fact that they simply lost the race on the basis of their merits (or lack thereof). </p>
<p>The admissions officers at selective universities say they do not set a higher bar for Asians. Unless you’re prepared to argue that they’re all a bunch of liars, you need to provide some hard evidence to prove your point.</p>
<p>So your company’s human resources department is full of liars (you seem to be saying), and therefore Harvard’s admissions office must be as well?</p>
<p>But LOTS of Asians ARE URMS (as already noted.)</p>
<p>Anyway, it doesn’t matter. The OP should assume he is being rejected, and then he won’t be scared, and then he can attend one of the 20+ institutions where he can get a better education than H or Y.</p>
<p>Saying ORM asians (which is a vast swath of the world population, but so be it, for the sake of the conversation) do not have to have higher stats in order to get into the most selective schools is like saying girls don’t have to have higher stats to get into the top LAC’s. It’s just not true.</p>
<p>But, you can’t change it. These are private institutions and not public and they get to choose the population make up they feel best suits their purposes. You just need to know what it is you are up against and apply accordingly. Also, keep in mind that there are many more great schools in the country than H, Y, Williams and Swarthmore.</p>
<p>Make sure you have a safety school you think is fantastic and you can easily afford and you will be set. </p>
<p>Good luck, as Mini has pointed out, accidents do happen, even to the best of us. ;)</p>
<p>I’ll admit that I only read the OP, not the rest of the thread but OP - CC isn’t representative of college admissions in general. Most who post here are trying to get into the top schools. You will get accepted somewhere. If you’re applying to HYP, fine - but be sure to apply to some matches and safeties, too. I only remember one thread about someone who did not get in anywhere, and this student applied only to top schools, no matches or safeties.</p>
<p>I don’t know about your financial situation, but especially with the economy going the way it is, it’s also a good idea to have a financial safety - a school you can live with that would be very likely to give you some nice merit aid.</p>
Wow, this is such a bogus statement. As a poster who posted so many times demanding evidence for anything that goes against your bias, use what some admission officers said as ‘evidence’? As a publisher of a community newspaper, annasdad, did you ask them for ‘evidence’, some hard facts and data of their claim? you so frequently demanded evidence from the unanimous internet posters on this CC board whenever the message is against your belief? What did you expect? Did you expect that the admission officers will say that **they hold Asian applicants to a higher standard than the rest **, which in my opinion is the truth?? Did you really expect to hear anything different ?? When you demanded evidence about asians facing higher hurdle, you sound exactly like Russ Limbaugh talking left-leaning issues. your posts only show you may hold anti-asian bias yourself. Else, how do you explain all your posts concerning this issue?? As a publisher of a community newspaper in rural midwest, are you willing to disclose your ethinicity when you spewed so many posts against this asian-applicant issue? As an asian parent of college kids, I have seen the tremendous difficulty that asian kids face in my locality. whenever posters like you comeout and shout that there is no anti-asian bias and use as your ‘evidence’ of an admission officer saying in a public presentation, it just disgust me. Isn’t what you heard from admission officers a direct contradiction to their own admission policy that they evaluate athletes and URM, etc., differently? do they evaluate asians on the same standard as URMs? Aren’t the athletes predominatly non-asians and they let in athletes at a lesser academic standard ?? There are many white athletes, many hispanic athletes, many black athletes, but not many asian athletes in the college admission pool. As a community newspaper publisher, I hope you do not hold an anti-asian bias. Because else, how can you explain your consistently anti the issue of ‘anti-asian bias’ in college admission without any credible evidence yourself?</p>
elaborate this. How are Asians URMs? Asians are minorities, but not the under-represented minorities. Perhaps Asians are the URMs in Athletic admissions. But sadly they do not look at it at all in the college admission. The athletic admission only look at the ‘athletic’ merit/qualification in their decision.</p>
<p>As already noted, MANY Asians are treated as URMs in college admissions. I already named a small number (of the much larger number) of Asian URM groups. </p>
<p>@toughyear, you can rant all you want, but that doesn’t substitute for evidence. If you have evidence, provide it. Otherwise, you sound very foolish indeed.</p>