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<p>any more input guys? thanks!</p>
<p>snu is the best college in Korea, but it is not as good as us top colleges.
surely the students are very smart, but not as much as those who are accepted to top us colleges(hypsmcawscbp...).
i was surprised when i realized that some of us community college classes were much more rigorous than those of snu classes.
if you can be accepted to top 20 colleges, forget about snu.</p>
<p>It's true that SNU's course rigor is not that rigorous - or any other colleges in Korea in that matter.
It is just damn difficult to GET IN to the school.
And the word 'smart' is all relative - the accepted SNU students are smart in terms of pure academic rigor. But the accepted HYPSM students would have a different kind of 'smart'. I would say that an average SNU student has far more knowledge in the sciences and maths, than the average HYPSM student.</p>
<p>If you are planning to work in Korea after graduation, you could probably displace SNU for the top 5 colleges in the states. However, for the rest of the colleges in the US, SNU beats them all in terms of success. True, success can also be relative but what I mean is the common view of success - great job, great apt, nice car, prestige and wealth.</p>
<p>I don't think as NoFX does. if you graduate ucla and fisnish a t-14 law school or t-10 business school, for example, you have far better chance than someone garduates snu and its graduate school. seriously, my friend who finished graduate school of economics department told me a few years ago that those who didn't study abroad had fewer chances in big companies than those who studied in the usa. if you finish ug in snu and continue study in a us graduate school, its pretty good. however, i don't think that even the option(snu-us graduate school) is better than study in a top college and graduate school here.</p>
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<p>hehehehe
I'm a 12 year korean abroad student in Thailand ^^
my mom knows ****loads about this for the "SKY" universities</p>
<p>S eoul National University (서울대)
K Koryu de or Korea University (고려대)
Y Yonsei de (연새대)
"reach for the sky" thing</p>
<p>As undesputed posted, only 12 year or above abroad students have considerable advantages over the general student pool. universities all admitted 3 or above year candidates enthusiastically, but because there are so many currently, more than 300 12 year abroad students two years ago to seoul uni (my sister applied after getting rejected from all the IVIES in US and stanford) theres going to be even fiercer competition when I apply, maybe like 500. However, among these 12 year students more than 60~70% cant even speak english, many are from Korean Schools in Asia (especially in Japan and South East Asia and China) who have studied abroad for 12 years,around 15% are Korean Students in the US who have lower than 3.0 GPAs, and the rest are just average.....nearly no korean would apply with a successful 12 year education in international schools to Korea, because they would have gotten accepted somewhere better or preffered not to go to Korean universities (rankings are horribly low considering the competition).</p>
<p>Most importantly in order for 12 year koeran students to apply to the top universities in Korea, they need to pass the highest level, level 6, in the Korean Aptitude Test, and i have to take it in Korea next month which ****es me off because I also have to study for my IB exams.</p>
<p>Universities:</p>
<p>Seoul University: dont even have interviews for 12 year students and only look at applications especially where students have been admitted to, I know this because I already sent them an email. Also Seoul U like students who take the hardest program available at the school, and they even have a cutoff point for the IB program of 36 WITHOUT the bonus from ToK and EE (ridiculous for such a bad university, sorry if I offended anybody).</p>
<p>Korea University:
They have the interview here and the entrance exam, only if you dont pass level 6 in the Koeran aptitude test. Furthermore I think all SKY universities need students to pass level 6 or take Korean as a Second Language courses before being admitted for study. They dont have specific cutoff points for any programs but they like hard programs and high GPA. My sister told me that the interview is really really.....stale or seomthing , with concrete walls and floors, 100 meters between the interviewer and students, echoes in the room etc....</p>
<p>Yonsei university:
Easiest for 12 year to get in among the SKY unis I think....same process as Koera university but less rural and more urban. Korea university is more traditional and conservative than Yonsei, which has a really modern campus, eventhough Korea Uni drinks A LOT.</p>
<p>I think if any 12 year koeran gets accepted to any of the top 15 US universities or the ones with good reputations and names will easily get admitted to Seoul Uni without going through anything complicated, I mean when students are not going to Cornell or U of Chicago to go to Seoul Uni which ranks below a 100 in the world rankings or something.</p>
<p>I heard that the people who get rejected from Seoul Uni with full 12 year educations in Korea get accepted to the IVIES....so I really hate to see so many smart people just going to SKY.</p>
<p>My parents want me to not go to WUSTL and apply to Seoul Uni....so dissapointed even when my parents have more than enough money</p>
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<p>Why would you go to SNU in the first place? Given the horrible economy and job competition in Korea, I'd rather go to a state school or just any other accredited US university for that matter. Sure, SNU probably has an acceptance rate lower than Harvard, and I know that people there are geniuses, but where does that get you in the long run? The best you can probably do there is to get accepted to the med school and make some decent money in Korea, hoping you can afford a south Seoul apartment sometime in your 50's. If you want to play in the big leagues, and look at careers that you are actually interested in, going to SNU is far from the best way to start.</p>
<p>I don't know anything about Korean schools, but I felt almost obliged to post here. My mom graduated from Ehwa, and got married almost as soon as she graduated and came to America. After starting over in America, she went back to school (local cc) to furthur her education. Doing all this, she was still able to successfully raise 3 sons. I just wanted to brag for her, because when people here about Ehwa in AMerica, they have no clue as to how good of a school it is.</p>
<p>i know, and Ewha is supposed to be the best women's university in Korea, isn't it? ;)</p>
<p>Gryffon is correct!</p>
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so if the geniuses of the geniuses are accepted to SNU, why don't these genius just go to oxford or harvard?</p>
<p>so does SNU teach in korea? actually do all major universities around the world teach in english? they should because english is lingua franca.</p>
<p>doesn't students in yonsei play alot?
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<p>maybe they're not affluent enough to pay the 120K tuition?</p>
<p>My two uncles graduated from SNU. My parents went to college here in the states though. My feeling on SNU is that it isn't a very open school, like Yonsei is. I think SNU teaches primarily in Korean, but Yonsei does teach a lot in English. Many American universities have study abroad agreements with Yonsei, but not SNU, which I think is a nationally operated school. Yonsei is also an American founded university too, so it would be more apt to teach in English, at least early on.</p>
<p>I don't know much about SNU, except that in Korea, if you graduate from there, your life is set. Everyone else is your subordinate, unless they literally work their butt off.</p>
<p>Thanks for the input guys! what about Korea University and Ewha Womans University? Any info. about those schools as well? thanks!</p>
<p>Korea University is also a very reputable school in Korea. They are an equivalent of Yonsei I'd say... I believe that they are also good athletically too.</p>
<p>any info. on Ewha please? :)</p>
<p>You are too curious about many things...Ewha is the best woman university in Korea. I am not sure about these days, but Ewha students were said to be more interested in fashion than in academics. Back in the 70s and 80s, not only most of Korean students but also most of professors were not interested in teaching and learning. In my graduate school(snu), my professor came to the classroom(We were learning Russian Formalism) only 3 times. And that was it. And that's why I said some community colleges were better than snu.</p>
<p>so here's my perspective on all this stuff...</p>
<p>i grew up in a family where korean universities are pretty much put on pedestools, and then it's life/death trying to enter... (dad, two uncles, three cousins have gone to /are attending SNU... mom/one uncle/one cousin have gone to Yonsei)</p>
<p>and yeah, the general consensus is that one works his/her ass off during high school years and then makes up for the lack of social life in college.</p>
<p>my opinion? overrated. i hate the "pick a major in junior high and follow through for the rest of your life" idea, and the childish arrogance that some people from these schools have. there's like an education-based class division in korea, which like wmalum said, means that graduating from SNU means you're autmoatically on a higher level. i know a lot of you will say it's better than a money-based class division but i don't see too much of a difference.</p>
<p>if you're going to live in korea though, i guess you don't have a choice unless you make it to the top-tier us schools. </p>
<p>god i sound bitter =P</p>