<p>I don’t think the story that was being told in the 1986 newspaper article made that much sense either:</p>
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<p>So I guess her story was that she accidentally pulled the trigger, not that it somehow went off by itself? How difficult is it to pull a shotgun trigger accidentally?</p>
<p>I didn’t realize how accomplished Seth Bishop was. However accomplished Amy was, my guess is that he outshone her. Poor kid – it wasn’t a safe thing to do, probably.</p>
<p>This is also from the 1986 newspaper articles:</p>
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<p>oh, and ttparent, your explanation does make sense, since their father was definitely at Northeastern; this is from the 1970-71 Northeastern course catalog:</p>
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<p>There’s even an annual “Samuel Bishop Award for Outstanding Graphic Design Student” at Northeastern, so even if he’s retired, he was obviously there for a long time.</p>
<p>Polio’s story does not add up. His own police department (not the state police who took the investigation over later) surrounded the car dealership, had an officer on the roof with a gun, and interviewed those employees. Now he’s trying to say that if he had known about the fact that Pettigrew had a gun pointed at him it would have made a difference?! He knew. I don’t buy his version of the story for a second. </p>
<p>[Quincy</a> man recalls Amy Bishop holdup - BostonHerald.com](<a href=“http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1232944]Quincy”>http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1232944)</p>
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<p>I do have a masters in CJ and what happened in Massachusetts may be normal over there but isn’t the usual practice in any place I have ever lived. There have always been cases of kids playing with guns and accidents happening. This event doesn’t fit that pattern at all. Yes, sometimes there is a cover-up by panicked teenagers but not to the extent of committing more crimes with that gun (leaving the house and pointing at people). The whole family (adults) sounds very strange. But in general, having a personality disorder is not something which would absolve a person of culpability. In most states, a person has to be so deranged as to not be able to ascertain the wrongness of what they are doing by others. Actions such as hiding a gun, practicing shooting, trying to claim that the people are in fact alive, are all actions that show either pre-meditation or acknowledgment that others don’t view their actions as lawful. You can have all the crazy beliefs you want but as long as you can recognize that others don’t share your beliefs and look upon your actions as unlawful, that precludes the not guilty by reason of insanity defense.</p>
<p>My family was discussing the death penalty over dinner on Sunday. I said that I have no objection to the death penalty in principle, but that I am against it in most cases because guilt can rarely be proven beyond all doubt, thus presenting the possibility that the executed person will later be proven innocent. This does not appear to be such a case. I think this case is what the death penalty was made for.</p>
<p>Oh no, not again!</p>
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<p>Don’t know if anyone has said this yet but she could well have been a CC poster if she has an 18 year old. As could her 18 year old.</p>
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<p>Maybe some of the victims were too.</p>
<p>“Also: I don’t want to sound like an Ivy League snob or to denigrate Northeastern, but if Amy Bishop was always a scientific “genius” (like her brother), and her family had plenty of money (as appears to have been the case), is Northeastern a college that a high-achieving “genius” from Massachusetts would have been likely to end up at back then, absent “issues” with recommendations or interviews, etc. that might have hurt her chances with higher-ranked schools? I know that she went to Harvard Medical School, but that was later.”</p>
<p>My dad graduated from Northeastern. I talked to him about this and he too was surprised to an extent. He said that if Amy Bishop’s father was a full time professor there, then his kids would have received free tuition. Braintree is not a wealthy suburb, it is very middle class. It is not like Weston or Wellesley. If the father was an art instructor, not even a professor, he would not have been earning a very high income. My dad said that even back in the 80’s, before Northeastern’s transformation, it was not uncommon for NU graduates to go on to Ivy League grad schools. Back then, many students chose NU for financial reasons and coop, as did my dad. BTW, my dad went on to get an MBA at Wharton. </p>
<p>Ivy and other elite schools are perhaps not as snobby at the grad school admissions level as they are at the undergrad level.</p>
<p>Does anyone recognize any of the regular CC posters as missing for the past few days?</p>
<p>The Chronicle of Higher Ed has yet another article. In this one, another member of the UAH staff says Bishop told him Harvard said they would hire her back if she did not get tenure, and she also had a job prospect (in a friend’s lab, I think) at U of Oregon.</p>
<p>Not that murder will ever “make sense” but it doesn’t sound like Bishop was at the end of the line for a scientific career.</p>
<p>[Huntsville</a> Official Tried to Calm Amy Bishop in Phone Call About Her Future - Faculty - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“http://chronicle.com/article/Huntsville-Official-Tried-to/64215/?sid=pm&utm_source=pm&utm_medium=en]Huntsville”>http://chronicle.com/article/Huntsville-Official-Tried-to/64215/?sid=pm&utm_source=pm&utm_medium=en)</p>
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<p>Hee-hee. 
Fortunately no one seems to have taken the bait.</p>
<p>bluealien, could you please provide a link (Pubmed ID would be fine, too) to the paper co-authored by the professor and her kids?</p>
<p>BB I believe someone posted it earlier in the thread</p>
<p>Bluealien-
While there do seem to be a few conspicuously missing characters here, doubtful they were from Huntsville. Don’t know if I was supposed to laugh at your post, but I did. :)</p>
<p>I guess I should have quoted 07DAD. I asked my question in response to his post about the victims possibly being CC members.</p>
<p>Here’s the paper.</p>
<p>[Effects</a> of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors on motor neuron sur](<a href=“Effects of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors on motor neuron sur | IJGM”>Effects of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors on motor neuron sur | IJGM)</p>
<p>Pretty heady stuff for a 9 yo to co-author</p>
<p>well I feel better now jym626 has posted–whew!</p>
<p>Actually, I do know someone who posts here that is from Huntsville, and I’m trying to remember what her screen name is.</p>
<p>LOL 07dad (NOT)! Safe and sound and not in Huntsville. And I don’t own a gun. But after that post, hmmm… maybe I should look into it ;)</p>
<p>Mom2collegekids–
I thought YOU were in Huntsville! :o</p>