Shooting at Univ. Alabama Huntsville (merged thread folds in Parents Cafe comments)

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<p>This does not make much sense. No one can “expect” to get a patent unless the USPTO sends them a letter saying that the claims have been allowed.</p>

<p>The USPTO lists only one patent application with Amy Bishop as one of the inventors (it does not mean that there aren’t any other applications). According to the USPTO, the first non-final office action was mailed to the inventors’ attorneys on Feb 16 2010 with a rejection of all claims due to the invention being “obvious” over a couple of references. It happens all the time, and it does not mean that her invention was “unpatentable”. A good attorney can come up with strategies to overcome such rejections. I wonder if that was something she discussed with the Ofice of Tech Transfer and which contributed to her going off the deep end.</p>

<p>Thanks for the link! I find it strange that some of the authors on that paper (the kids) are listed as being affiliated with “Cherokee Labsystems, Inc.” Hmmmm…</p>

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Posts # 274-276 addressed this yesterday. The lab company seems to be their home address.</p>

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<p>Not really. The only measurements here are cell survival and neurite outgrowths (# of neurite branches.) So first they plate neurons, they mix one of several drugs in the cell growth media, and then they count the number of cells that are still alive as well as the number of branches of each neuron. It’s not very complicated.</p>

<p>A nine-year-old could easily participate in this.</p>

<p>jym, thanks! Sorry for asking the questions that have been already addressed, but this is a massive thread, and I have not been able to go that far back yet.</p>

<p>I suspect that many of the CC high school student posters who brag about doing science research are doing research with relatives and family friends, who are the ones doing most of the research – including the thinking about what to research.</p>

<p>What the students are doing are easy tasks that could be done by anyone – if that person had connections in science fields.</p>

<p>No worries, bb. This is a long thread and new, weird and weirder info keeps popping up every day. My good friend’s s goes to UAH. He and one of his roommates are home for the week. They plan to return to campus Sunday.</p>

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<p>Those were the days, my friend—</p>

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<p>Hopefully the kids weren’t in charge of the ethanol.</p>

<p>She has an 18 year old. I wonder what the college application process was like in that house? How will (or did) SHE react to her child’s rejection from a college?</p>

<p>I’m glad her children are away from her. I’m imagining a tightly-wound illogical mother who values academic success and discounts the value of normal childhood social engagements.
She probably force fed her kids the periodic table while others were teaching their kids nursery rhymes and setting up play-dates.</p>

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<p>I don’t agree. Trust me. Bio is pretty easy and a smart high school student who has taken bio can meaningfully participate in most types of research, both intellectually and through lab work. Most college students take high school classes for the first 2 years anyway (intro science + calc through multi-variable), classes that the top students have already mastered. So a high school student could easily be at the level of a science major in college. </p>

<p>The other fields are much harder to contribute without extensive background.</p>

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<p>If every cold-blooded murderer is mentally ill, then they should all be able to plead the insanity defense. Labeling heinous crimes as a mental disorder absolves people of having to be responsible for their own actions and excuses a whole lot of people from knowing right from wrong. I think it’s a very problematic position.</p>

<p>I am not sure this was posted before but this is a release statement from the current Police chief of Braintree. It seems that Polio is the one most guity person in this whole chain of tragedy.</p>

<p>Braintree Police Chief Paul Frazier releases statement</p>

<p>Braintree Police Chief Paul Frazier released the following statement about the 1986 case involving Amy Bishop in Huntsville, Alabama:
“The members of the Braintree Police Department extend their thoughts and prayers to the victims in the shooting incident which occurred at the University of Alabama, in Huntsville, Alabama as well as to their families and the members of the Huntsville Police Department who responded to and are investigating the incident.”
“I have been in contact with the Huntsville Police Department to confirm that the suspect in their shooting had been involved in a shooting incident in Braintree 24 years ago. Their investigators will be back in touch with us within a couple of days.”
“The suspect in the Huntsville shooting, Amy Bishop had been involved in a shooting incident in Braintree, Massachusetts in December of 1986. I located the Day Log from December of 1986 and found that the incident had occurred on December 6th. After finding the report number I looked in our archived files for the report. I was unable to locate the report.”
“Officer Ronald Solimini informed me that he wrote the report and said that I wouldn’t find it as it has been missing from the files for over 20 years. He said that former Police Chief Edward Flynn had looked for the report and that it was missing. He believes this was in 1988.”
Officer Solimini recalled the incident as follows: He said he remembers that Ms. Bishop fired a round from a pump action shotgun into the wall of her bedroom. She had a fight with her brother and shot him, which caused his death. She fired a third round from the shotgun into the ceiling as she exited the home. She fled down the street with the shotgun in her hand. At one point she allegedly pointed the shotgun at a motor vehicle in an attempt to get the driver to stop. Officer Solimini found her behind a business on Washington Street. Officer Timothy Murphy was able to take control of the suspect at gunpoint and seized the shotgun. Ms. Bishop was subsequently handcuffed and transported to the police station under arrest.”
“Officer Solimini informed me that before the booking process was completed Ms. Bishop was released from custody without being charged.”
“I (Chief Frazier) spoke with the retired Deputy Chief who was then a Lieutenant and was responsible for booking Ms. Bishop. He said he had started the process when he received a phone call he believes was from then Police Chief John Polio or possibly from a captain on Chief Polio’s behalf. He was instructed to stop the booking process. At some point Ms. Bishop was turned over to her mother and they left the building via a rear exit.”
Braintree Police Lieutenant Karen MacAleese was a high school classmate and confirmed from photographs that the suspect is the same Amy Bishop who lived in Braintree.
“I was not on duty at the time of the incident, but I recall how frustrated the members of the department were over the release of Ms. Bishop. It was a difficult time for the department as there had been three (3) shooting incidents within a short time frame. The release of Ms. Bishop did not sit well with the police officers and I can assure you that this would not happen in this day and age.”
“It is troubling that this incident has come to light. I can assure you that the members of the Braintree Police Department maintain the highest of integrity. Since it was discovered this morning that the report is missing, I have been in contact with Mayor Joseph Sullivan.
Mayor Sullivan and I have spoken with District Attorney William Keating and we will be meeting with him next week to discuss this situation. The Mayor supports a full review of this matter and agrees that we want to know where the records are.”</p>

<p>There really was a cover up…no doubt about it.</p>

<p>Jym626 Mom2collegekids–I thought YOU were in Huntsville!</p>

<p>LOL…I live near Huntsville…not in Huntsville.</p>

<p>Well, let’s see. In 4 days, there are more than 450 posts on this thread. I wonder if the story will have “legs” for long enough to reach 1,000. I also wonder what the last “true crime” story was that attracted that much interest here. I don’t think CC was around back in the OJ days.</p>

<p>mimk6-- I see what you are saying. I think you see what I am saying, too.</p>

<p>Fortunately, and I believe MilitaryMom addressed this, the definition for a legal insanity defense is different from the definition for a mental disorder. Clearly this woman knew what she did was against the law…whether or not she has remorse is immaterial to her guilt. The description of how she went about taking the lives of these people is absolutely chilling. INhuman, imho. But, I see what you are saying and agree that I would not want her to be anywhere but permanently in prison.</p>

<p>Donna: so you missed the very polarizing thread on the DUKE lacrosse scandle. I think part of the thread was lost at some point but, boy, did it have heat and legs :)</p>

<p>“I wonder if the story will have “legs” for long enough to reach 1,000.”</p>

<p>I’ll be the first to weigh in on DonnaL’s question. No, I don’t believe we’ll hit a thousand. For that to occur I think there needs to be new “fuel for the fire.” Is AB off her rocker? Sure. Is that a defense for what she did? No. Was her action premeditated and unprovoked? Well yeah (in part because her first victim actually supported her tenure). So, barring “new fuel” in the form of her lawyer finding a novel defense … I think the twinky defense has already been used … we’ll need to see some marked misbehavior by, or to, Amy Bishop’s family. JMHO of course.</p>

<p>We didn’t reach 1000 with the Steve McNair murder, but that’s because there were so many posters who decided he deserved it because he was having an affair.</p>

<p>I suspect we will hear of more bizarre incidents in the lives of this family, and that will keep this threat going. We have not heard all there is to hear about the incident when she was 20, about the attempted bombing incident… And if her husband continues to blab to the press… This won’t die down very soon.</p>