Should i apply to LSA or COE??

<p>okay so im going to submit my app in the next few days and wanted to know which college i should apply to.....basically where would i have a better chance of getting in</p>

<p>STATS:-
sat-2170
subjects- 700 in math2c nd chem and 720 physics
country-india
gpa- no gpa system but top 5% of class</p>

<p>LSA:-
if i apply to lsa i will apply as a comp science major</p>

<p>COE:-
If i apply to coe i will apply as a computer engineering major.</p>

<p>i basically dont mind either major so where would i have a better chance of getting in??</p>

<p>LSA is usually easier to get in. </p>

<p>Keep in mind, however, that you have to write an essay on “the unique qualities that attract you to the specific undergraduate College or School (including preferred admission and dual degree programs) to which you are applying.”</p>

<p>thank you ohhayitsme, i m aware about the essay and will write it once i decide the college im applying to :stuck_out_tongue:
do you think i have a chance for COE though??</p>

<p>You will have a better chance at LSA.</p>

<p>yeah thought so too, will apply for that</p>

<p>Do you want to study engineering? Yes? Then apply to CoE. No? Then apply somewhere else.</p>

<p>i knew someone would say this at some point but im equally interested in both so that isnt the issue. its just that since i like both, id like to apply to the school that i have a better chance at.</p>

<p>Apply to the college you would rather attend. The difference in acceptance standards between the two is very minor and is way overstated on this forum. Chances are, if you have the ability to get accepted to LSA, you also have the ability to get into CoE. The reverse holds true as well.</p>

<p>Also, as with all colleges at U-M, they are looking for passion. If your application shows passion towards engineering, you could have a significantly better chance applying for engineering over LSA.</p>

<p>^ Statistics show a difference admission range in ACT & SAT for LSA or CoE though. These information are available online. For CoE, the mid 50 ACT is 31-34, while it is 29-33 for LSA. In general, the reverse is true that if you have the ability to get accepted to CoE, you also have the ability to get into LSA. I have seen someone with ACT 23 to get into LSA this year, but I have not heard anything like that in the past for CoE.</p>

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The acceptance rate for last year was 2012 was 36% in CoE and 39% in LS&A. The only released test scores statistics for the two colleges is that the median accepted ACT score in CoE (2012) was a 32, and the median enrolled ACT score was 30 in LS&A during the same year (which means they are probably a maximum of 1 point apart when comparing the same parameter). When looking at GPA’s though, LS&A actually had a slightly higher average at 3.90 compared to 3.87 for the College of Engineering.</p>

<p>The admissions differences between the two colleges is negligible at best. A student who is comparing LS&A and CoE should only choose which to apply based on which they like more. Any other advice is bad advice.</p>

<p>For the OP, I would recommend taking a look at the requirements for the separate programs. They are actually quite different.</p>

<p>will look at the requirements and decide accordingly though im leaning towards LSA</p>

<p>@ KronOmega,
CoE has the admission stat posted on their website. And the average GPA for CoE admission is 3.9 while 3.85 for LSA. You should not compare between admission with enrollment stat as they are different. The 1-2 point difference is ACT admission average is a good indication that CoE is more competitive than LSA. This is not a speculation at all.</p>

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No it isn’t. The 3.9 that the CoE has on it’s website is rounded up from a 3.87. LS&A reports a 3.90 exactly without any rounding. </p>

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Of course not. I used that to show where the numbers were coming from. The fact is that CoE’s numbers come from admitted (and not enrolled) students which makes their ACT scores to seem significantly higher than LS&A’s. Although the CoE doesn’t use the same reporting methodology as LS&A, if they did, it would with all likelihood lead to a one point difference between the two schools at most. A one point difference is completely negligible and can’t be used to say anything about the competitiveness of the two schools.</p>

<p>As I said before, if you have the ability to get into LS&A, you can almost certainly get into CoE as well. Similarly, if you can’t get into the CoE, chances are you can’t get into LS&A.</p>

<p>As a student in the CoE myself, I find it very bad advice to recommend applying to the perceived easier college. To do so only makes it more cumbersome to the applicant if they like one program less.</p>

<p>If I’ve already been accepted EA to LSA and now I want to attend COE do I have to wait and do a cross campus transfer or can I call the admissions office after break?</p>

<p>You have to wait to complete a cross campus transfer application after you complete your freshman year. This is exactly the situation I was referring to in my post.</p>

<p>how easy is it to complete the cross campus transfer?</p>

<p>If your doing CompSci, you need to ask yourself what types of classes you want to be taking outside of the core reqs.</p>

<p>The program core for both CS-LSA and CS-Eng are the same. For the most part, you will be taking the same classes at the same time with the CompSci engineering students.</p>

<p>LSA requires you to learn a language and a upper level writing course. In my opinion, this is the biggest difference. Learning a language requires a lot of non computer related work to succeed. At Engineering, outside of the core reqs, you focus more on critical thinking/problem solving classes.</p>

<p>You should apply to the program you want.
[Computer</a> Science-LSA vs. Computer Science-Engineering](<a href=“Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at the University of Michigan”>CS-LSA vs CS-Eng | Computer Science and Engineering at Michigan)
<a href=“http://cs.lsa.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/cslsa_program_guide_fall_2013.pdf[/url]”>http://cs.lsa.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/cslsa_program_guide_fall_2013.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at the University of Michigan”>Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at the University of Michigan;

<p>(I am a CS - Eng Major)</p>

<p>If you’re quite serious about CS and already have a bit of programming under your belt. I definitely recommend doing CS-LSA and taking EECS 280 and 203 your first semester then 281 and 370 your second semester. Engineering has much more required courses your freshman year. For example, Engr 101 is difficult to skip even if you’ve had prior experience. You could probably take first semester only 12 credits if you wanted too if you wanted to smooth out the transition a little bit to college.
Doing the core CS classes your freshman year opens up the rest of your schedule to upper level CS. There is a huge group of engineers that does not take 370 and 281 until their junior year because of the many core requirements.</p>

<p>Thank you so much for the above answers, its cleared up my mind a bit. So i wanted to ask whether the CS-LSA majors have the same chance at getting a job at good software companies like google??
also which major is better if i wanted to get an mba later on??</p>

<p>I would apply where you want yo be rather than to the one tha is easier to get into.</p>