Should I choose the higher ranked university or the higher ranked department?

<p>Hello
I am an international student and I have been admitted to Indiana University-Bloomington as well as University of Illinois-Urbana. I have no personal experience with these schools and have applied to them solely on the basis of US News Rankings and opinions from a few friends,relatives in America. According to the rankings UIUC is ranked higher than Indiana University. However, Kelley School of Business(indiana) is ranked higher than UIUC college of business.
So which one do you think is a better choice?</p>

<p>If your intended major is Business, I think Indiana is the better choice. Both Business schools are good, but Kelley is slightly better and Bloomington is a nicer college town than Urbana Champaign.</p>

<p>Actually I want to go to Indiana more. I just like the feel of it for some reason. But my parents,friends are telling me to go to uiuc cause it has a greater international reputation because many people from here go to uiuc for engineering and business.
So I am really confused right now :(</p>

<p>That is a valid concern. If UIUC has a much stronger reputation and alumni presence in your home country, it may be the more rational decision. In the US, both are roughly the same where Business majors are concerned.</p>

<p>Well, to be honest, uiuc doesn’t really have a MUCH stronger reputation. Infact hardly anyone from Bahrain goes abroad for undergrad. and even if they do they mainly go to canada. For example, only 5-6 people from my school(which is one of the biggest and best international schools) are applying to colleges in america.
It’s just that people recognize uiuc as a great school and acknowledge that it’s engineering and business are highly ranked.
However, people are shocked when I tell them that Kelley is actually ranked higher than Illinois for business.</p>

<p>Kelly is the better choice here.</p>

<p>Interesting choice. Both are FABULOUS schools overall and provide students with a wonderful middle American experience. Both are big into athletics as well with storied programs, though Illinois is a better football school by far. </p>

<p>Both schools offer students a plethora of majors and have wonderful programs from theatre to music to psychology to business and liberal arts to science and math. There is no wrong decision here, trust me!</p>

<p>You might spend some time on the threads for each school, and also ask the colleges to help you talk to existing students perhaps on facebook pages for students there to get a vibe. But frankly, I think the vibe will be similar at both. And LOTS of diversity. you wont be lonely at either school. The weather and topography are similar and your travel similar…likely you fly into Chicago for both from an international location. </p>

<p>Come with an open mind, an open heart and spirit, with TOLERANCE for everyone, and you will be rewarded with an exceptional educational and social experience that will last your entire life. </p>

<p>Flip the coin on choosing. No wrong choice here. What would I do? Try to find the best fit and the place that has more of my interests…perhaps you like classical music? Indiana’s Music School is at the conservatory level. Its simply amazing. Even if you don’t play violin or cello, they will provide you with simply astonishing concerts. See where I am going with this? Find your interests…go to their websites, and even contact the department heads…they will appreciate your polite inquiry. </p>

<p>Congratulations! Welcome to the United States.</p>

<p>For an undergraduate degree, I would go with the higher ranked university. For graduate school though, especially for a PhD degree, I think the higher ranked department, or even a more prestigious thesis advisor, may be a better option.</p>

<p>If you want to do business, you should make your decision based on the level of recruiting and alumni presence at the firms you’re interested in. Do you want to do banking? Trading? Consulting? Not sure? I think that Kelley is by far the stronger choice, but you should do your own research to be safe. </p>

<p>Ask this question on a forum where there is more knowledge about undergraduate business, since a lot of advice in this thread is very general and is irrelevant/wrong as it pertains to business.</p>

<p>I agree with al6200.</p>

<p>Here is a list of the top recruiters at each school to help you.</p>

<p><a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?;
"Top recruiting organizations most recent academic year:</p>

<pre><code> Deloitte 23
KPMG 16
PricewaterhouseCoopers 15
J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. 14
Dick’s Sporting Goods 14
Bank of America Merrill Lynch 11
Target 11
Ernst & Young 10
Altria Sales & Distribution, Inc. 10
Procter & Gamble 8
Macy’s 8
General Electric Company 7
ArcelorMittal 7
Coyote Logistics 7
Sherwin-Williams Company 7
</code></pre>

<p>[University</a> Of Illinois, Urbana-champaign: Undergraduate Profile - BusinessWeek](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)
" Ernst & Young LLP 20
Deloitte LLP 19
KPMG LLP 17
PricewaterhouseCoopers 16
JP Morgan Chase 10
Epic Systems 8
Accenture 7
Aon Corporation 4
FTI Consulting 4
General Electric Company 4
Kohl’s 4
Nielson Company 4
Sears Holdings Corporation 4
W.W. Grainger, Inc. 4
Teach for America 3"</p>

<p>Thank you all so much for the responses! :smiley:
I have another question,
"Top recruiting organizations most recent academic year:
Deloitte 23
KPMG 16
does that mean that only 23 people were recruited by deloitte and 16 by kpmg?
so does that mean it’s very hard to get a job at the big 4? is it possible to know out of how many people in total did the 23 get hired at deloite?</p>

<p>Ask Deloitte Touche or KPMG. They might tell you. Or ask Indiana University Placement Office, or University of Illinois Placement Office. They might tell you. This is just an opinion board. </p>

<p>I can tell you that the Big 4 accounting firms recruit around the country, and hire aggressively and accounting is still a very strong employment field, for those who pass the CPA exam. The credentials often require a Masters in Acct. </p>

<p>Also, those firms do a lot of consulting hiring. And the consulting field is growing and has a lot of heavy hitters outside of the Big 4. Many big consulting firms do a lot of outsourced federal government work, and for some of that you need to have a security clearance and that normally requires you to be a US citizen. (Again, that is for the narrow work of federal security work in consulting.) </p>

<p>Going to college is not just to “get a trade” in the United States. It encompasses much more than that.</p>

<p>Another thing you’ll want to look into is the FO/MO/BO divide. Banks may recruit for front office at one school and back office at another school. Back office work, while professional and reasonably well paying is basically clerical and support oriented. It offers fewer challenges, but also different locations that you may prefer (for example, GS has a lot of ops in Utah) and it has much better hours.</p>

<p>You cannot go wrong at either school, and you seem like an informed person.</p>

<p>Be sure to take advantage of networking and internship/co-op experiences.</p>