<p>"the library has only like 8 million volumes"</p>
<p>why does that matter in the least?</p>
<p>at many universities like haverford and clarke, the libraries are shared and you can get te book you want within a day</p>
<p>You keep saying that everyone who disagrees with you is stupid, yet you give no reasons why.</p>
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the fiske book says 40 percent.</p>
<p>and this year must be some insane anomaly that will surely never occur again to such an extent.</p>
<p>40 percent is too high to be considered top 10 prestige material.
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Is growing popularity that difficult to imagine? 40% is outdated at least by several years. And Chicago has seen a ~20% increase in apps from 07 to 08 alone. It's a pattern that will continue.</p>
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I don't know why I keep coming back to this thread.
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<p>It's sort of like watching a car crash, or a burning home--it's sad, but still compels you to watch.</p>
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"the library has only like 8 million volumes"</p>
<p>why does that matter in the least?
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<p>Yeah, you're right--a good library doesn't matter for education. Why would I ever bother asserting that?</p>
<p>LMAO I was gonna write the same thing about a car crash! You just have to watch...but I'm watching George Lopez right now</p>
<p>Eh, George Lopez is all right. Not the best actor, but still funny.</p>
<p>Not that I'm doing much better--watching the Simpsons. Not as good as Family Guy, but it's something to watch.</p>
<p>I hope someone from UChicago uses their superior intelligence to delete you.</p>
<p>^ LOL <em>zap</em></p>
<p>Kind of ironic how you are insulting my intelligence, yet you follow "someone" with "their."</p>
<p>You chastise schools like HYPMS for wanting more applicants so they can be more selective.</p>
<p>Now, we introduce Uchicago. A school that has a specificity only matched amongst the top schools by Dartmouth/Caltech and some of the top LAC's. There are few people who go to UC for the prestige -- few who even apply for the prestige -- and yet you think because it's not as selective as HYPMS or the other top Ivies -- that it's ranking is undeserved.</p>
<p>Don't forget though, if I wasn't lazy, I'd go back into that same thread and I'd post your obvious disgust for the USNWR report -- and now you're being almost transparent with your petty criticisms based on a system you never agreed with in the first place.</p>
<p>I never insulted your intelligence. I simply called for someone of superior intelligence.</p>
<p>Pardon my lapse in grammar. </p>
<p>I hope someone from UChicago uses *his or her superior intelligence to delete you.</p>
<p>A moderator would also suffice....</p>
<p>You have no way to prove that "there are few people who go to UC for the prestige -- few who even apply for the prestige."</p>
<p>You also have no evidence that UC doesn't use its high ranking to attract applicants.</p>
<p>That's not what I'm even arguing; you're making an irrelevant argument that runs contrary to what is being discussed.</p>
<p>Seriously, all of the other top 10 schools have ridiculously low admissions rates, while UC's is 40 (or w/e) percent!</p>
<p>How can you not see that UC is a black sheep?</p>
<p>I'm linking your previous arguments to your current one. You're saying that based on rankings you never agreed with in the first place such and such school is overrated.</p>
<p>Yes I can't prove that, but assuming that most people matriculate where they feel the fit is best, I would say that Chicago's atmosphere is only attractive to a certain type of student. When a school's atmosphere carries the banner of "Where fun goes to die", it seems as though that would have a definite impact on anyone who actually researched the school and still applied. </p>
<p>I would assume that only certain kinds of people apply there -- whereas Harvard/Stanford/Yale gets everyone and their mom. </p>
<p>Anyways, screw this -- Chicago deserves to be a top ten school. Stop using one characteristic to determine who should be a top ten school or not.</p>
<p>Why Chicago is prestigious:
Top 10 business school
Top 14 Law school
Top 10 med school
Top PhD programs across the board in Economics (#1 or 2), History, Sciences, the list is too long for me to list
Most Nobel Prize winers of any college
Where the atomic bomb was developed
Many famous alums like Kurt Vonnegut</p>
<p>What makes Harvard or any other top 10 school prestigious? The same things.</p>
<p>UChicago's acceptance rate has been going down the past few years. In years past it has had a very self selecting class as seen from their "Uncommon Application" and reputation. It is probably going up in recent years due to a strong mailing campaign, a rise in USNews ranking, attempts to break its incorrect reputation as a nerd school where fun goes to die, and the overflow of top applicants to other peer schools due to the increased competition for admissions to top schools.</p>
<p>What do you mean I never agreed with them?</p>
<p>I thought they were stupid, pointless, and put too much pressure on kids while distorting the admissions process, but I agree with plenty of aspects onthe list.</p>
<p>And anyways,UC does NOT deserve to be a top 10 school, especially not 1 of the top 10 prestigious schools.</p>
<p>Rice, Harvey Mudd, Dartmouth, plan 2 ut, and Cornell blow UC out of the water in terms of acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Bourne, it's not like I'm a lone weirdo rebel. Plenty of people agree with me that UC is a great school, top 22 material, but not top 10. </p>
<p>SERIOUSLY</p>
<p>Not that I'm generally one to feed the trolls, but:</p>
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<li>U Chicago has one of the best faculties in the world.</li>
<li>U Chicago has been the source of some of the most influential schools of thought, breakthroughs, and thinkers of the 20th century, more so than almost any school I can think of.</li>
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<p>And finally:</p>
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<li>Consider School X. School X has 100,000,000 people apply every year because everyone hears how amazing it is, so everyone, no matter what, applies, since "getting in is a crap shoot"-- which of course means everyone has an equal shot. School X only has 1,000 spots, meaning it only admit something like 1/ 100,000. Obviously assume a small number of people choose not to enroll, but the numbers are roughly unchanged.</li>
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<p>Now consider School Q. School Q is known for being really, really odd, and is in a part of the country that gets paid very little attention. Because School Q isn't part of School X's Old Boy's Club, and is quite a bit younger (Though still very old), it doesn't have quite the same name brand. What's more, they cultivate their image so that it only appeals to a small segment of the population. So School Q only gets 100,000 applicants to begin with. However, the students who apply to School Q are all of that small segment of the population they've targeted to- a segment more qualified on the whole, and more likely to attend School Q if admitted, since it's more uniquely tailored to them (or they to it). So School Q can admit the same number, 1,000, but out of a smaller pool, thus drastically increasing their admit rate.</p>
<p>Imperfect analogy, but you get it. Or you're dense/ a troll.</p>
<p>but it's much harder to stand out at the school with 100,000 applicants.</p>
<p>You'd need some amazing ec or something to be able to get accepted.</p>
<p>however, at the school with 1,000 applicants, if you get a 2380 on the sat and 790's on the sat 2's and a4.0, your chacnes of gaining admission are way higher because there aren't so many applicants that it becomes kind of a crap shoot.</p>
<p>seriously, it is so much harder to get into a school with a small acceptance rate; that's third grade math right there.</p>
<p>when EVERY other school in the top 10 has a ridiculously low acceptance rate except UC, UC appears to be a black sheep.</p>
<p>^maybe there is more to life than how many people you reject. maybe there is something to be said about the people you accept</p>