Sleeping schedules..

<p>I's kinda weird. Sometimes, I sleep 7 hours, and I lie there for 30 minutes wide awake. Then, when I do get up, I feel like sleeping again and can sleep another 2 hours.
I've been trying to keep a schedule of going to bed between 11ish and 2ish. It's been working pretty well.</p>

<p>Nobody over-slept by any limit here Asian sensation, nobody even exceeds 8 hours I think.</p>

<p>And agh I can't remember who it was but some genius would sleep in two four hour shifts, he would work then sleep for a break and do that pattern.</p>

<p>I like getting my 2-3 hours at night, and then getting another 3 or 4 during the day. Which in total at the VERY most is 7, so no oversleeping done :)</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/529076-naps.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/529076-naps.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>During school: from 10-11PM (usually around 10:30PM) to 6:10AM (weekdays)
from 10:30-11:15PM to 7:30-8:30AM (weekends)</p>

<p>Summer: from 11-11:30PM to 7:30-8:15AM (weekdays: I have work at 9:15)
from 11-12PM to 7:30-8:45AM (weekends)</p>

<p>So I guess I normally do sleep later in the summer. I don't sleep very late at all, though, for a teenager.</p>

<p>What's the appeal of staying up so late? I like doing things during the daytime. I can't play sports at night. Nothing's very appealing at night. I like mornings much better.</p>

<p>10 hours is not oversleeping, really. 12 is, although it really doesn't matter that much at this age. There's no health issues with sleeping 10~12 hours a day, and if there is, someone please give me a (credible) link to it and I will be glad to reduce my sleep to 10 hours a day.</p>

<p>I've found that the best sleep schedule is the same one. I usually get between 6 and 7 hours of sleep per night. But I feel exactly the same if I sleep for 5 hours or 8 hours. I feel the best when I stick to the same schedule all the time, because then my body realizes the schedule and I can get the most out of my sleep. It's rare for me to wake up in the middle of the night for that reason. I almost always go to bed between 11:15 and 11:45 pm, and I get up around 6:20 am. It works well for me.</p>

<p>How</a> Much Sleep Do You Really Need? - Yahoo! News</p>

<p>"Daniel Kripke, co-director of research at the Scripps Clinic Sleep Center in La Jolla, Calif., has looked at the most important question of all. In 2002, he compared death rates among more than 1 million American adults who, as part of a study on cancer prevention, reported their average nightly amount of sleep. To many his results were surprising, but they've since been corroborated by similar studies in Europe and East Asia. Kripke explains."</p>

<p>"Studies show that people who sleep between 6.5 hours and 7.5 hours a night, as they report, live the longest. And people who sleep 8 hours or more, or less than 6.5 hours, they don't live quite as long. There is just as much risk associated with sleeping too long as with sleeping too short. The big surprise is that long sleep seems to start at 8 hours. Sleeping 8.5 hours might really be a little worse than sleeping five.</p>

<p>Morbidity, [or sickness,] is also "U-shaped," in the sense that both very short sleep and very long sleep are associated with many illnesses - with depression, with obesity, and therefore with heart disease and so forth. But the [ideal amount of sleep] for different health measures isn't all in the same place. Most of the "low points" are at seven or eight hours, but there are some at six and some even at nine. I think diabetes is lowest in seven-hour sleepers, [for example]. But these measures aren't as clear as the mortality data.</p>

<p>I think we can speculate [about why people who sleep 6.5 to 7.5 hours live longer], but we have to admit that we don't really understand the reasons. We don't really know yet what is cause and what is effect. So we don't know if a short sleeper can live longer by extending their sleep, and we don't know if a long sleeper can live longer by setting the alarm clock a bit earlier. We're hoping to organize tests of those questions."</p>

<p>@Shrinkrap</p>

<p>Although I've read some other links contrariwise to that info above, it seems she is an expert.</p>

<p>I still say it depends on age and person. That's on AVERAGE.</p>

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Exactly. Those studies mean nothing. People who are sick or unhealthy will likely have irregular sleep patterns. It seems rather obvious that people who sleep 12 hours a day feel tired. There must be something wrong with their bodies' energy in the first place to sleep so long. It is so hard to determine cause and effect from the association and the confounding variables of how healthy a person is really diminish the impact of the studies...</p>

<p>Upon examining the article more closely (sorry I had to eat, xD) it really means nothing; it just makes speculations and bases it on "studies show".</p>

<p>You can't really know whether the 6.5~7.5 hour sleepers who live the longest live longest because of sleep hours or because of a multitude of other factors. Causation =/= correlation.</p>

<p>Interesting read, though.</p>

<p>I'm snooping because I really want to better understand kids sleep patterns. I originally posted my "Naps" thread in the parents cafe, because I didn't want to intrude, but now I can't resist. Everyday I work with kids or their parents, who descirbe sleep patterns very different from parents. Often the parents ( and others) pathologize it. I just want to understand. I often assume young people feel night time is more exciting and "forbidden"; and I guess some feel more exciting things happen then. Sounds like some of you agree, I'll just lurk now...</p>

<p>School year - Wake up at 6, take an hour long nap when I get home at 6 (unless I have work which I nap at 11), wake up and do homework until 2-4, go to bed, wake up and repeat.</p>

<p>Summer - Wake up at 10ish and go to bed at 2-3</p>

<p>School year - Wake up at 6:50 to 7</p>

<p>Summer - Wake up at 10ish (although my mind is telling me that I should wake up at 9ish)</p>

<p>In terms of going to bed, I think I've been kind of consistent :P</p>

<p>During school, I'll try to get in bed by 11:00 (12:00 was the latest I wanted to stay up) and wake up at 6:00. Usually out of bed by 6:20/6:30.</p>

<p>Summer just...depends. At the start I had a good schedule (12:00 - 10:00). Lately, for the past week and a half, I've been getting to bed when the sun is up (about 6:00), so my room is a cave to keep the sun out. =P Normally, when I hit this point I'm stuck until August. I'm working on fixing it, though, so I'm trying to get in bed a half hour to an hour earlier each day, because otherwise, it doesn't work, and I stay awake for hours doing nothing.</p>

<p>Going to bed so late (so early in the morning?) I've been waking up at all hours, from noon to 6:00 at night. I can't say I'm pleased with myself. =[ I just like sleeping.</p>

<p>Ideally, I want to be a sleep by 1:00 and wake up at 9:30. We'll see how that goes. =P</p>

<p>School: Up at 5:30, in bed by 10:30, sometimes 11.</p>

<p>Summer: Up at 9 (I make myself wake up at 9 with few exceptions because otherwise I sleep too much and am way too tired and not productive), asleep by midnight.</p>

<p>i'm pretty proud of myself - i made it through this year sleeping at 10-11ish every weeknight, except for like two when i actually had to do homework
and then towards the end of the year i was getting even lazier and took 2hr naps after practice haha junior year too, i probably slept the most out of everyone :)</p>

<p>summer i sleep at like 2/3 and get up at 11/12</p>

<p>Seems like there're the makings of some polyphasic sleepers on this thread :]</p>

<p>And about that 6.5-7.5 hours of sleep article.. I've definitely read that 9 hours is best.</p>

<p>It doesn't even say 6.5~7.5 hours is best, it just says "Those who sleep that long tend to live longer." Wth kind of information is that?</p>

<p>ok, I'm saying this as a college student with experience...</p>

<p>SLEEP IS NOT OVERRATED. It really isn't. For your own sake, get at LEAST 7 hours of sleep a night, more if you can. Less than 7 hours and you're going to start feeling the effects...my first semester as a freshman in college, I still had that attitude that "oh, I don't NEED sleep." So I got maybe 4 hours a night. By October I was wondering why I kept getting sick, couldn't read a 100-page assignment in less than 2 hours, was constantly irritable, bursting into tears at small things, and unable to concentrate in my morning language class. Suddenly, it hit me...I wasn't sleeping enough! Second semester, I made sleep a priority...almost always got 7+ hours, and wow...I never got sick, was realllly efficient at doing work, and much much happier. </p>

<p>Sleep is not optional....if you REALLY want to succeed, trust me, it'll behoove you to sleep enough.</p>

<p>And yes, there are some people who legitimately don't need much sleep...but they are very very few and far between. You are one of these people if you only get like 4 hours a night every night and still wake up refreshed/without the aid of an alarm. I know one of these people at Yale. Most other people are just kidding themselves...I was.</p>

<p>My dad's a freakin beast when it comes to not sleeping. He literally sleeps 3-4 hours a day. Believe me, I've tried to catch him sleeping. I've gone to bed at 11pm, 1am, 2 am, 3 am. and he's still staring at the computer screen typing. I've gotten up at 5- 8 am and he's drinking a cup of coffee and sitting at his computer. He says that he's been like this since middle school. But recently, in the past 6 months, he's been sleeping 5-6 hours. Age probably caught up to him.</p>

<p>I've been trying to sleep for like 9 hours a day since I read somewhere that sleeping might encourage growth hormones (I'm short :-() Once it gets past a certain time though, I can't go back to sleep no matter how much I want to. It saddens me to say that I've never slept past 10 am, even if I go to sleep at 6 am. I get that sleep back though, by taking 2 hour naps during the afternoon.</p>