<p>Titan: see if you can take your finals early... a few kids at my school who attended SLS did that</p>
<p>WP- you are relentless. You also infer way too much. You THINK you are understanding what people are posting, but you fail to read CLOSELY as to what is being said!!! </p>
<p>Read carefully!!</p>
<p>Mids** "have been, and continue to be"....**does not say that "all are," does not say "will be"....</p>
<p>Says "Have been" *....fact.... and *"Continue to be".... fact ....</p>
<p>*"Can" **they be? Sure!
*"Will" **they be? Perhaps yes, perhaps no....IT DEPENDS.... which is EXACTLY what was posted!!!</p>
<p>"will" is your word, not mine!!! Honestly- this is not rocket science!</p>
<p>as CurrentMid - who is there and doing this- so clearly points out, it all "depends"....
OOM, grades, conduct, etc.....when it occurs, where it occurs (Drinking in Bancroft is a huge no-no).... what year the Mid.... of age, underage, what they "Blow," what class- the more "upperclass" the more accountability they incur....even for the same offense!</p>
<p>does drinking take place?
yes.
So some drink responsibly?
Yes.
does stupid drinking take place?
sadly, yes.</p>
<p>my point is simply this.... it is , it remains, risky behavior.<br>
Having said that, there are rules that are intended to keep one out of trouble with this-
NO underage drinking
NO drinking while driving
NO more than ONE drink per hour
NO more than THREE drinks at any ONE occassion.</p>
<p>Do mids take risks? Yes. Some may even be "smart" about it. Some that are "smart" about it may even get away with it. Some that are "smart" about it can even get caught.....something that is often not fully appreciated!!! Maxed out on demerits, adjudication hearings, appearances in front of the powers that be- is it worth it???? Is it worth the risk of losing it all? You tell me!!!</p>
<p>The very nature of this business is that we need leaders not afraid of risks- but some are just not worth taking- IMO. "Some" will learn the lesson the hard way, sad to say. </p>
<p>Again-
there is choice, and consequences to those choices.
Some behaviors are riskier than others.
Some behaviors carry more significant consequences than others.
THINK before you act.
It is a simple message, really! </p>
<p>
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Here separation becomes an option, not a mandate of the offense.
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NO ONE said it was anything BUT an option!
But an option it remains! That SHOULD BE enough! </p>
<p>Can we call it quits on this now?????</p>
<p>Hey would you two get over your selves. Not helping any future mids here with this discussion.</p>
<p>Just the contrary-
I think if this converstation helps one kid/candidate/Mid then it is worth having.</p>
<p>" Just the contrary-
I think if this converstation helps one kid/candidate/Mid then it is worth having."</p>
<p>OK - Then start another thread. Wasn't this one is supposed to be about NASS?</p>
<p>BTW - I think some folks on this thread have WAY to much time on their hands....either that or they somehow have a job where they get paid by the # of lines of mindless drivel they can generate.</p>
<p>"Are you hedging tho in using "can" vs. "will"?" There are those that will be separated and those that could be. How anyone on this forum choses to interpret what goes down on the yard needs to take a reality check. </p>
<p>Those applying and those appointed - enjoy senior year but be smart. If you break the law you will have to submit a police record check and you will have to answer. The outcome may not be to your or your parents liking.</p>
<p>I chose my words carefully, as many things that go on in the Hall and on the yard should stay there....</p>
<p>Then make another thread. Get out of here you two.</p>
<p>is applying 2 weeks after feb 1st. really late to apply? I would apply on Feb 1st but i have no PSAT or SAT scores.. i take my SAT 1st time on jan 24. anyone give me insight?</p>
<p>If you beat the deadline, then it's not too late.</p>
<p>However, that said, there is a very pragmatic problem over which applicants at this stage have LESS control than those applying in September. It's rolling admissions.</p>
<p>And all that means is that come February, the available spots are literally miniscule relative to the 1200 or so that were available in September. The pipeline's full. </p>
<p>So what's that mean? In the absence of addressing a special need of the Navy, candidates applying now must be generally substantially "better" than the USNA typical profile might suggest in order to get into the "national" competition. It's very different than the highly selective college or university utilizing a common reply date, i.e. where all students aside from those EA candidates are notified at one time.</p>
<p>btw, that's not offered as a nay-sayer to encouragement. Remember, not over until the fat lady sings, and I think I know who that might be ...:eek: Simply addressing a point pertinent to this scenario, I believe.</p>
<p>MDSU--am I missing something? I thought you were a junior this year?</p>
<p>I am a junior this year. what did i say to confuse?</p>
<p>I think I got confused by the thread, not necessarily by you, MDSU--I'm sorry.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, my son did not start the process as early as you have and was not even aware of SLS. He began his preliminary applications in late April and Summer Seminar applications were already closed. So, I can't help you with that. But, you should have your Jan 24 SAT results by Feb 12. (My son's experience with SAT is that the results have been available by 8 am on the day College Board said they would be.) </p>
<p>SAT</a> Scores - View SAT Scores - Send Score Reports</p>
<p>I would think Feb 12 would be enough time--anyone else know for sure?</p>
<p>MDSU-
the peliminary application can be started at any point. Feb 1 opens the applications for NASS- the Naval Academy Summer Seminar- which is a good opportunity to visit USNA and get a glimpse of USNA and what it is like to be a "plebe." The closer you apply to Feb 1 the better, although a 2 week time frame should be ok. It is not "first come, first serve" -there are other things that will factor into the selection for NASS. The reason many apply early, however, is that it is a popular program and it tends to fill up quickly- thus, the "sooner the better." </p>
<p>You do not have to have SAT scores to apply to NASS, although you will be asked for PSATs- most applicants will have those scores to report. </p>
<p>Aside from NASS (which opens up a peliminary file for you)-
if you meet minimum requirements on the peliminary application, you will be designated as an "official candidate," (most will be notified of that status over the summer) which brings you to the next step of the application process. Getting that part of the application completed is up to you, although the summer prior to the start of your senior year is a good time to get the bulk of it done. The goal is not as much to do it "fast" as it is to do it "complete". </p>
<p>Most applications don't start rolling in to USNA until early fall, although there are a good amount of candidates that submit as early as August- a few apparently even earlier than that.....all depends on when you have SATs to report (some are satisfied with May-June SAT results, while others will wait for Fall results). The admissions board starts reviewing files as they come in once this years class has reported (which will occur on 7/1 this year)- if I remember correctly, the admission board started meeting the last week of August last summer for the current admission cycle. Rushing to get things in prior to that is unnecessary, IMO.</p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
<p>First off, Whistle Pigg... Shut up. You are annoying, wierd as crap, no one wants to hear you complain and argue over this stupid stuff, and please, to save your own image, stop talking about pig crap. Its just wierd. Seriously.</p>
<p>In relation to the question. Apply as early as you can. It will help you to apply early, but a few days late won't kill you. Just submit the application, make sure you have good statistics and you should be fine. Actually most of the NASS applications are based off of SAT/ACT/PSAT scores so you will see a lot of fat people at NASS that have no athletic ability and won't become mids, but are there because they have high grades and scores. Don't sweat it though if you don't get it. I know many of my classmates never went. Just enjoy it for what it is worth, but dont take it all as fact. They will show you the "fun" stuff of the academy, not the crappy parts of plebe year, so take it all with a grain of salt. Its a great place, but not all of NASS is truly accurate.</p>
<p>Clarification to Post #33</p>
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the peliminary application can be started at any point.
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<p>It should read:
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the peliminary application can be submitted starting Feb 1 of your junior year, and any time after "but no later than January 31st of the year in which they plan to enter the Academy."
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<p>I'm slighty disappointed my forum is tainted with all this non-sense about drinking. Ironically, I am one a few examples in my school of a kid who is straight as an arrow that still has a social life. My belief is that my kind of mind-set (Clean because it's the right thing to do; cons far outweigh the pros of drinking) is what all Middies should have. I want to go to an Academy because I'm sick of my world where drinking is tolerated. If you want to drink, make ROTC priority 1. Whistle Pig did teach me something, not the right thing though: that my vision of USNA/USMA is scewed. I still have faith that the majority of cadets/middies share my belief that drinking is wrong because it is wrong(PERIOD). What I'm saying, don't advertise the place as a possible drinker haven. Hopefuls like me don't want it. </p>
<p>Anyways, my question has been answered. February 1st is approaching and I'm thankful for those who have contributed positively towards the answering.</p>