Sls 2009

Colleges and Universities A-Z Naval Academy - Annapolis
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<p>I'm a junior and I'm very interested in both USMA and USNA. I have applied and have been accepted into West Point's SLS. I would really like to attend Navy's version, too. However, there are session choices availible and, if accepted, I would only be able to attend session 3 (latest in the summer). Can I notify them that it is that session or bust? </p>

<p>Session 2 is the week of final exams for my school and I'll be in NY for USMA's SLS.
Session 1 is when I'll be taking my finals, so I really can't miss school.</p>

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<p>You get to rank your choices when you apply. Get your app in EARLY and you should get your first choice.</p>

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<p>Just to edify an earlier point ...and it does not change the main one, i.e. to apply early, Feb 1 if at all possible ...these spots are not necessarily filled on a 1st come/1st served basis. Special needs and thus targets of the Navy drive it ...under-represented populations essentially. Again, doesn't change the bottom line, apply early. </p>

<p>And they generally attempt to accommodate tight schedules like yours, once they've identified you as a desirable NASS candidate. </p>

<p>It's been noted often on cc, but for your consideration ...NASS exclusion should NOT be taken as an indicator that you're a less-than-desirable candidate for USNA appointment. Nor should NASS admission overly serve to suggest you might be an alpha candidate. Those noted, there is substantial overlap of NASS and I-Day attendees. Congrats on the USMA SLS opportunity and good luck in making it to the "Big Dance" aka USNA NASS. ;)</p>

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<p>Thank you for your helpful responses. I'm just hesitant to ever be the needy one, but I guess that's what may be necessary. Sorry that I mislabeled NASS as SLS, that was rather ignorant. I'm ready to go for the Feb 1st application start. Thanks again.</p>

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<p>Indeed, it's the way we all are designed ...to be needy. And rightly so; it's not some genetic flaw. Problem is often that it takes us longer than it should to realize how grossly incomplete we are, whatever our gifts may be; and thus how much we disserve ourselves and others by naively, ignorantly thinking we are or ever will become self-sufficient islands of humanity. And in our delusion, we rob others of the very thing you and many of us proclaim to be seeking ...opportunity to serve.</p>

<p>Good luck, go get 'em, seek others who can and will help you in your heart's desire. For most it starts with your parents. Appreciate them and others.</p>

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<p>In addition to what WhistlePig said, for those unable to attend NASS due to school commitments, sports camps, financial considerations, etc., this will NOT be viewed negatively. No one will think that you didn't like USNA, didn't want to attend, etc. USNA (and the other SAs) recognize that there are many reasons candidates can't attend. </p>

<p>It's a great opportunity and something you should make every effort to attend, if you can. But if you don't get in or can't go, move forward with your application for USNA 2014 just the same.</p>

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<p>titan: My current Plebe was faced with a similar situation, although hers was trying to fit in both NASS and the USAFA summer seminar. Once she received her first acceptance, she contacted the 2nd program, and notified them why she now had only one time available. She ended up being able to fit both in.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

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<p>titan-
feel free to be as needy as you need to be.</p>

<p>As far as I am concerned, a basic question is neither an indication of "needy," nor is it a cause for us to be reminded as to how "incomlete, imperfect, naive, genetically flawed, delusional," or otherwise incomplete "self-sufficient islands of humanity"...........we are for what, asking a question???? </p>

<p>what the heck!
Lets just stick to answering questions with succient and meaningful answers- hyperbole aside. </p>

<p>Ask away.</p>

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<p>2010 ...</p>

<p>As usual, you are so right on the $, venerable grasshoppa. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Your point that ...
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... is it a cause for us to be reminded as to how "incomlete, imperfect, naive, genetically flawed, delusional," or otherwise incomplete "self-sufficient long islands of humanity"...........we are ...

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...Well, our imperfectons are so often so readily apparent, notably mine. But I trust you grasp, understand, and hopefully empathize with my many great needs, though. :eek:</p>

<p>At any rate, happy new year and welcome back, ol' chum! We've missed your many observations and waxings. May '09 be just perfect for you, and the wheat winnowed from the chaff for us all! :D Talk to you on the p.m. :cool:</p>

<p>You know, when you're AWOL, I just feel sort of, as you note ... "incomlete" :confused: Hey, always fun! jk ;)</p>

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<p>Sorry WP-
all out of understanding and empathy for piglets today! And sorry, it is never "fun."</p>

<p>Now if you have something to contribute that can actually help to guide those interesed in applying, do tell. Otherwise, spare us.</p>

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<p>Oh come on. Lighten up. </p>

<p>Help me with who 'twas that said, "Beware of zealots. They are humorless and unjustifiably self-impressed, especially with the quantity of that which they perceive they know and struggle so diligently to impose upon other innocent, unknowing parties"?</p>

<p>I do know who said "brevity is next to godliness" though. ;) My senior year English teacher, bless her heart.</p>

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<p>I have a good mind not to even respond to this, however it is you, dear WP, missing the point.</p>

<p>Drinking at USNA is a serious infraction, so much so that it will cost some their very dream. Drinking prior to arriving at USNA, getting caught DUI/DWI, getting a police report for related behaviors, even prior to arrival, etc, can cost one that hard-earned appointment. </p>

<p>So no, this is not an area that I will "lighten up" on- no way, no how. Too many learn the hard way, and for some it comes at a huge cost. My message is not to you, WP, but for the candidates that want to be successful- getting in, and more importantly, staying in. Joking about it, making light- sorry, does not cut it, and it will not be tolerated at the Academy. THIS lesson gets learned the hard way, and sadly, far too often.</p>

<p>So my message is to the candidates-
underage drinking is against the law.
drinking and driving is against the law.
Risky behaviors can cost you - dearly.
Now, before you get in, and once you are on the yard.
Take a chance- you may very well get away with it- but you may not.
So make your choices wisely.</p>

<p>And WP- my message to you.
I am not a zealot by any means, although I do bleed Blue and Gold.
I am a parent of a Mid who has come to fully appreciate what the USNA is about.
I am a BGO who devotes countless hours to helping those interested be successful.
I assure you I have a very good sense of humor.
The difference between us, however, is that I know the difference between what is humerous and what is not, and what constitutes sound advice and what is sheer foolishness. The former is what I hope to impart on those serious to make them selves knowledgable, and responsible, parties. "Guilty as Charged" is just one foolish choice away from innocent.</p>

<p>Choose wisely.</p>

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<p>Amen! And nicely offered! Ay Ay BGO Queeg! :eek: Hey, jk. We all appreciate your many, many, many contributions here . </p>

<p>And to your reiterated point, of course drinking is a serious offense, both before and after I Day. 1985 made that point so nicely, and concisely. And no doubt these bright young men and women embrace her point, I'm confident. No need to beat that to death. ( Although I still like the idea of birch beer breathalizers,don't you? :rolleyes:)</p>

<p>I am confused though about just one thing in your recent note. You state ...
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** I know the difference between what is humerous and what is not**

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<p>Ok, but do you know the diff between the upper arm bone one can readily break patting oneself on the back in recognition of all "I've" done vs. enjoying a little laugh and smile? :) (Hey, you said it, not me. :D Forgive me.)</p>

<p>Seriously, I'm confident many value your many, many words and dedication to the cause. I sure do, and miss your bloggings when we are absent one from another.</p>

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<p>^^^ give me - and the rest of us-a break.</p>

<p>your cynicism is thinly veiled, and it is not appreciated.
If you have something of value to share, then do so.
Otherwise, hit the delete button- that, too, would be a blessing, and I am equally as confident, will not me "missed."
Hope that is succinct enough for your liking, conisidering my "many, many words" and all.
Oh, ;) . Right.</p>

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<p>
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of course drinking is a serious offense, both before and after I Day. .... And no doubt these bright young men and women embrace her point, I'm confident.

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</p>

<p>really.
Sadly, enough of them "don't."
"Lucky" are the ones that get a second chance.</p>

<p>You, dear "grasshoppa," have much to learn.</p>

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<p>Now you're sounding like my wife! But don't get your hopes up, Mother Miyagi. But I do like your spirit. </p>

<p>Heck Lucy, you and I could give Burns and Allen or Sonny n Cher some competition. We wouldn't even need a script writer. Just a spell checker, right? ;) </p>

<p>Now be honest...didn't you even find a little "humer" in your fox paws? :D Nah, I didn't think so. :( </p>

<p>Btw, to correct the record on a bit more serious matter, for minor drinking offenses, even dui's, while substantial punishment is doled out, none are booted for that offense any longer. Now, they may well miss Xmas vacation or spring break, etc., but gone they'll not be. Admission may be as 1985, not available in light of dui. (And in correcting the implication that Mids are booted for drinking a brewski, I am neither condoning nor recommending it. Just setting the record straight ...again. And I suppose I should come clean about the birch beer breathalizer...I made that up. :eek:)</p>

<p>I don't think we should take ourselves so seriously, do you? I'm pretty sure aside from your mother and my ol' mongrel dog, none are paying a lick of attention to your ramblings or mine ...unless like Seinfeld and his pals, they enjoy a cat fight. :eek:. Remember where we are, and if you want to be nasty, please p.m. me again. Or maybe ...let's do lunch sometime and bury your hatchet. Maybe you can get us a table at Bancroft? :cool:</p>

<p>Back to the Steelers! Go B and G! btw, I missed your Giants game. How'd your team do?</p>

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<p>For the record, Mids have been, and continue to be, separated for drinking. Right up to commissioning morning. Sad and avoidable. May not happen for the first offense. May not happen the first year. But repeat behaviors, in light of advancement in class years, and the punishment gets incrementally harsher. Ask the firstie who was separated last year on commissioning morning if he regrets his celebration the previous night, or the intent of the USNA to breathalyze all firsties the night before graduation, as to how serious they take this. </p>

<p>The giants lost- sad to say. Not their best performance. </p>

<p>As for the rest- don't flatter yourself. There will be no PM, no lunch, no table in Bancroft. I am not the one that has to be reminded of "where we are;" I neither set the tone or hold a hatchet to bury. </p>

<p>As for "not taking ourselves too seriously," If you are not serious about what you post, then perhaps there is another site more suitable for your lighthearted wit- my take is that there are applicants that are very serious about the questions they post, and are seeking not wit and silly barbs, just honest and helpful answers. If you have any of the latter to share, then please do so. If not, spare us.</p>

<p>That's it. Done.</p>

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<p>
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For the record, Mids have been, and continue to be, separated for drinking.

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<p>You need re-check your antiquated record and edify your papyrus, oh great font.</p>

<p>Again, I'm neither condoning nor recommending, merely correcting your off-target point. Drinking is a serious offense, DUI worse. Neither alone will get a Mid booted. </p>

<p>On a more personal note, I'm disappointed you'd wish me gone, 2010. :( I thought despite your midlife orneriness and our occasional tete a tetes (That's whistle pig latin for butting snouts. Hogs do it all the time, sort of like iron sharpening iron :rolleyes: ), that deep down you love me. And in fact you NEED ME on this wall! :cool: (Don't you think I look like Colonel Jack?) You and me is like a hand and glove ...You the hand, me the glove. Sorta like OJ and his misfitting mitt, maybe? :eek: Who'd be the cream in your coffee, the milk with your cookies, the ham in your bean soup. Yea, I like the last one. Ham comes from the pig right? And beans, well we know what they do ... :eek:</p>

<p>Hey, sorry about those Giants, old girl! :( But how about them Steelers! As we smoochie-smooch, they be whoopin' up on the Chargers, 35-24! And the last 14 SD pts against the Pittsburgh midget league team. :D Bring on Baltimore!</p>

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<p>OH Contrar WP. Under age drinking can get you booted and so can a DUI. Put the two together and you most likely you will not be around to collect a your black N. However, it is not necessarily a given, Just depends what else you got going for or against you.. Fair hardly, but it is what it is. Male, under average grades and bottom MOM will probably get you recommended for separation. Most who are recommended for separation will go all the way up the chain to the Supe as recommended for separation. At that junction then it is anybody's guess who goes and who stays.</p>

<p>There is and will continue to be a lot of drinking that goes on - don't be stupid about it.</p>

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<p>Well, let's just agree to disagree on this one. And seek arbitration. I'm personally aware of 2 quite recent cases. Neither received separation. Both received substantial discipline.</p>

<p>Are you hedging tho in using "can" vs. "will"? One says it's possible, which it is, always. The other indicates its inevitability. Earlier you state ...
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Mids have been, and continue to be, separated for drinking.

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You state it's hard and fast, outta there when found dui and/drinkin, it seems. Right?</p>

<p>Now you say ...
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Under age drinking can get you booted and so can a DUI.

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Here separation becomes an option, not a mandate of the offense. </p>

<p>And are you differentiating between underaged drinking and DUI? </p>

<p>What's your position, that we may be perfectly clear. Can or will? Drinking? DUI? </p>

<p>Perhaps a lurking Mid or someone grossly more informed than thee and me can edify this one.</p>