<p>if Harvard has more than 50% applicant and enrollment from Mass then they should be called Uni of Mass at Cambridge
Same for Pton if NJ numbers are 50%, old name College of NJ.</p>
<p>UC at Palo Alto sounds about right.</p>
<p>it sounds about right to someone who cant get in. too bad those states arent as populous nor as competitive as california. You cant even compare them.</p>
<p>ugh baba...ur disgusting..get over it! ur soooooooooo annoying! what are you getting out of this argument? We're all Cardinal lovers here...you're not winning any of us over by your stupid statistics and derogatory comments. Really, it makes NO DIFFERENCE to us whatsoever that you dont like Stanford and the way it admits ppl. So for whom are you continuing this argument? for the sake of self-ego, perhaps? awww...you poor thing! :( sob sob for you</p>
<p>You're obviously bothered by him or else you'd just ignore his comments. Maybe his arguments are hitting a little close to home?</p>
<p>ummm how about no. he is basically saying that Stanford is a bad school. We all chose this school so if we secretely thought it was bad, why would we go??</p>
<p>Folks what I am saying is Stanford as facts and data appears is good regional school. In line with UCB( which I say is a high quality institution) and Catech.
By putting it name close to HYP, which really do not care and do not give a damn about any one else other then IVYs, it trying malign Pton and Yale.</p>
<p>If Stanford was a regional school than why in the world would I leave New York and give up Yale to come here. Its like saying someone would give up Princeton on the east coast and go to berkeley. that just doesnt happen. People would only leave amazing schools behind on one coast to go to another amazing school on the other coast.</p>
<p>"You're obviously bothered by him or else you'd just ignore his comments. Maybe his arguments are hitting a little close to home?"</p>
<p>They'd hit a little close to home if we could understand them. I wish baba learned some grammar here and there. </p>
<p>Anyway, I don't like made up and estimated statistics. If you want to be taken seriously, you have to have citations to back up your numbers. Otherwise how can we tell those numbers are correct? You might as well have pulled them out of your ass.</p>
<p>The only reason that I enjoy this is because this guy is giving Stanfurd kids what they give Cal kids. Just throwing out numbers and saying ___ is not nearly as good as ____. Its fun to watch!</p>
<p>oh this is fun, first in response to "stan the man"
You posted "UCB has about 90% in state, genious. there is not one state school with even close to 40% from in state, its always much more." I am going to throw some figures at both u and baba that will make you revoke this comment. NCSA in NC has a ratio of more then 3/4 out of state students and this is a state funded school. This school is actually more acceptable to out of state then any ivy league school.
Fact is, anyone on the west coast is going to give Stanford a pat on the back, and anyone in the east coast will give hardvard a pat on the back before yale. The president's comment is not justified. Yale gave our current president a degree and he isn't the brightest of the bunch. If you know what I mean. He thought strategy was pronounced " Strategery?" Enough said, Harvard is also guilty of giving this guy a degree to. You guys are sounding like tupac and biggie smalls with the east verses west coast thing. Baba, something to consider. Cali is the largest state in the union housing 32 million people were Conn is like an island in the bahamas. So acourse Stanford will accept more instate because out of 32 million, how many dugi housers would there be. The ne is just as populated, especially ny. Which is 3 hours away. But NY students going to Yale inherit the out of state title. My stand comes from who gives a flip what ivy league or private school you want. You can go to Duke and have the best of both worlds, academics and sports. Fact is, Harvard is ranked as number 1, and these schools rotate the top ranks each year based on new stats, so like stan said, this is a pointless argument. If you want to get specific, we need to pinpoint degrees and what professions are better obtained from various schools. Law would be Harvard. Physics and science at Stanford, and entrance to skull and bones will be at Yale.
Either way, Chapel Hill is considered the only public ivy league school and we whooped all your butts in basketball. Screw president alumni, we had jordan graduate from here. Tar Heels for life Be-Ach
BaBa, I will be up in philly to see the yanks dominate, let me know if you wanna hook up. I'll email pics</p>
<p>lol i like your argument. but why in the world would you ever want to meet baba???</p>
<p>I would have to see pictures of course.</p>
<p>on Pton log simba threw a CA data around 45% for CA. I had applicant pool for SF 12000 coming from CA.( All this look like UCB). So I worked backward from SF data Yield 2/3( afact), admit rate 12%( a fcat). So I apply this to 45% OF 1650 GET 700 THAT LEADS TO 10000 APPLICANTS FROM CA.</p>
<p>CA is 10% of US population, a worldclass, so called SF has 55% application from native state, CA. They do not have to admit 40-50%, they can simply decide to match Harvard( New England, 25%, MIDATLANTIV 14% pACIFIC WEST 15%). sf CANNOT DO THAT. iF YOU TAKE ALL WEST(EX ca) AND iNTERNATIONAL, THEY ARE LEFT WITH 5000 APPLICANTS TO COMPETE WITH HYP. HYP minus 10-15% West enrollement has about 2500 seats to offer and they a total pool of about 45000 applicants( 15K).</p>
<p>Only way SF can play the game is to admithigher North east knowing fully well that many will not come. HYP has regional balance application wise. SF does not have draw to match the pool. That is why SF never publishes regional breakdown. SF only gives SAT and Class rank/GPA distribution. My my
it supposed to be great school for Engineering and Science. Data speaks truth. Need more data before I endow UC Palo Alto to Mr. Leland Stanford Jr.</p>
<p>It is clear that baba is cheating in his argument, he argues that stanford is a "regional school" by the west coast presence then uses this regional school status to demeen stanford's academic powerdess, ignoring any real measures of academic ability, using soley the conotation surrounding the term "regional school". </p>
<p>I think that any measure of academics (us news grad rankings, gormen, etc.) will show stanford to be strounger than hyp (as it has both humanities and engneiring) so it makes sense that baba would ignore this type of data.</p>
<p>A poll of americans from different regions ranking stanford highly would nicely defeat this "regional school" argument so here you go:
<a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/default.aspx?ci=9109%5B/url%5D">http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/default.aspx?ci=9109</a></p>
<p>Overall percent from general americans of the best school:</p>
<p>Harvard University 24
Stanford University 11
Yale University 11
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) 6
University of California at Berkeley 4
Notre Dame University 4
Princeton University 4</p>
<p>Overall percent from americas who did some postgrad work (i like this one much better, Notre Dame?!)
Harvard 29
Stanford 27
Yale 14
MIT 11
Berkeley 7
Princeton 7
Michigan 7</p>
<p>The site also has it broken down by region if you want more data</p>
<p>Awesome, among the most educated Stanford and Harvard and neck and neck. Hey baba, where's your UPenn?</p>
<p>I like this info but both of these graphs are bunk! Michi over a school like Duke? Princeton Review would rip himself a new ******** if he saw that.</p>
<p>Says Harvard is twice as good as Yale, SF is in the league of Notredame.
For grdauate work people should look at Harvard and Stanfor.
so what, for freshman you( UC Palo Alto) is still get more than applicants from CA are near by. So it is a regional school.</p>
<p>Stanford and Yale are tied. *** are you talking about?</p>
<p>BABA, who cares about the acceptance pool. It all boils down to whether your an white or not. If your not white, you got a free ride!All you are doing is degrading you own education and school by vouching for Yale. Fact is, no school has a fair selection process. My sister got accepted to an Ivy league school called John Hopkins. Could she go? No, because a prestigious school that small doens't have financial aid for caucasian citizens. They are two busy giving aliens a free ride. ANd bythat name, I imagine you are one of them. Which is another reason that I don't think you know what the hell your talking about. Who gives a hell what school accepts what out of staters. Fact is also, Ivy league schools compete more for students then someone like Stanford. People on the west coast only have a handful of decent schools to choose from in and none conform to Stanfords standards. Stanford is better because it resides in the state of the govenator! Anything in his presence is worth more.</p>
<p>acceptance pooll doens't make the school</p>