<p>My first year of college and no motivation ended up with only 23 credits and 1.9 GPA. Just high enough to stay off acedemic probation. The summer follwing that year I decided that the only way I was really gonna be happy is if I could go to the U of M Twin cities Carlson. Obviously with my GPA it wasnt possible to transfer directly to Carlson so I am now enrolled at community college and wroking hard on my school work. I have no doubts that I will be able to get a 4.0 or at least very close to it here at community college. My questions are first: Is it possible for me to just start over and count this year as my first year of college so when i apply to carlson ill just leave off my first college and pretend like it never happened? second, with Carlson being so selective( only about 150 of the 1000+ transfer applicants are accepted) is it even likely that i would be accepted with a 4.0 from a community college? I appreciate any advice I can get.</p>
<p>To answer your first question; no, you can't pretend that your first year of college never happened. You will need to send U of M your transcripts from your first school when you apply for admission. Unfortunately, I can't answer your second question, as I don't know the stats for incoming Carlson transfer students. Someone else on this board is bound to have them, though.</p>
<p>BTW, is your name an Ayn Rand reference?</p>
<p>ThinMan is correct, just in case you doubted him ;). You will be asked to list every college you have attended for any period of time and will need to submit transcripts for each.</p>
<p>But you can use your essay or the additional informationo section to explain your change in motivation and achievement.</p>
<p>I also don't know the chances at UM Carlson. You might find it on USN&WR premium online edition, but that does require a subscription.</p>
<p>thanks for the responses and yes its an Ayn Ran reference. Anyways, After looking around the board a little, it seems like there are people who leave off theri previous colleges. I know on the transfer application, it says list ALL previous universities. However, how would they ever find out if Left it off. I feel like i have no other choice after looking at the carlson average transfer gpas. LAst years average was like 3.7+. so even if i got a 4.0 this year my average would still be only like a 2.9.(far under the average. whereas i could get a 4.0 and drastically improve my chances</p>
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After looking around the board a little, it seems like there are people who leave off theri previous colleges. I know on the transfer application, it says list ALL previous universities. However,
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In making decisions about how you will proceed in life, I don't think you want to use such people as your role models. You can do the right thing because it is right, or you can do the right thing because you might get found out. How would you answer questions about what you did in the time between hs and cc? You present a much better picture by showing who you truly are, and the growth in your thinking and work ethic than trying to create a fictional version of yourself.</p>
<p>Yeah,</p>
<pre><code> Unless you are paying for all of your schooling in cold cash money, you have to put every school you went to on the applications.
Why?
Well, if you fill out the FAFSA, the fin aid folks access this thing called the National Student Loan Database and that has your whole financial aid stuff on it from every school you attended.
Also, you never know if you will be found out if you lie. And, if you lie and are found out, you are automatically kicked out. There is no way to play dumb on that.
Tell the truth. A lot of folks on message boards lie. There is one person who goes on this thread a lot who has been trying to transfer from Community College to University since they were a dual enrollment student in high school! This poster, who I shall not name, always winds up alluding to lying on apps and whatnot. Do not be like that. Just be yourself and be proud that you are trying to pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
There is a lot of pride to be had in someone who works from the ground floor up on their schooling. Do not be a liar. Be true to yourself.
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<p>peaceout,</p>
<p>your granny merlin</p>
<p>Thanx again fro the responses. The more I think about it, the more sure I am that ill decide to be completely open and honest. Although, I believe that a person shouldnt neccesarily have to report previous schools if they dont want to since it is their money/time that they are sacrificing and since they have proven that they are capable of acedemic success, the application still asks for ALL schools. So it wouldnt be telling the whole truth. I guess Ill jus have to hope and pray that the admissions people are very understanding of my situation since i dont really have another school to fall back on. If anybody else has any further advice it would be much appreciated. this is a great board</p>
<p>I believe that you need 60 credits for Carlson to be able to transfer. Just take that opportunity to prove yourself by getting good grades at your CC, as the UM adcom looks for an upward trend in grades. </p>
<p>Be aware that you will also need these to be considered:
Calculus
Microeconomics
Macroeconomics
Business statistics
Accounting principles</p>
<p>You should have at least three of the five tool courses completed prior to the March 1st deadline. And, all five must be completed prior to the fall semester.</p>
<p>For Carlson, you will also need strong recommendations, leadership experience, and work/service activities. And, they suggest choosing a second choice major (economics for instance).</p>
<p>In any case, not making the adcom aware of your previous schooling can result in expulsion or (if you have already earned a degree) having your diploma nullified.</p>
<p>You could, if you'd like, take classes through UM-TC's College of Continuing Studies until you meet the requirements. Again, the U of M considers upward trends during their deliberations, so all is not lost.</p>
<p>"“People think that a liar gains a victory over his victim. What I’ve learned is that a lie is an act of self-abdication, because one surrenders one’s reality to the person to whom one lies, making that person one’s master, condemning oneself from then on to faking the sort of reality that person’s view requires to be faked.” " </p>
<p>-Ayn Rand (Atlas Shrugged)</p>
<p>^^^^^I love it. :D</p>
<p>JGalt - have you checked to see if Twin Cities has "Fresh Start." I know UT-Austin does...basically they will still evaluate you based on all of your grades, but if accepted you'll receive a "fresh start" where all past grades/courses won't transfer (you'll basically be a freshman) but it's a bit easier to get into a school with less impressive grades. You'll still need to show some sort of drastic improvement though. </p>
<p>I'd check into it though.</p>