Starting my UCSD appeal letter before I even get my decision

<p>So upon learning today from Post #1224 of the <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/880804-ucsd-acceptance-82.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/880804-ucsd-acceptance-82.html&lt;/a> thread, they evaluate applicants solely on 1. GPA and 2. Units taken
They don't even consider EC's or essays.
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<p>This seems ludicrously unfair to me, considering I feel I have above-average EC's and wrote decent personal statements. I have a 3.19 GPA (& doubt they'll honor my upward trend: 2.92 to 3.77 from 1st year to Fall '09). I qualified but couldn't sign the TAG because I hadn't completed the required English course by last Fall -- I'm taking it now and holding onto a 98%. </p>

<p>For a university as prestigious as UCSD, I'm disappointed in their limited evaluations criteria; it only seems appropriate that they'd evaluate their applicants comprehensively, the same way other top-ranking universities (like UCLA and Cal) do. Having learned of their shortsightedness (yes, that seems to be what it is), I'm guessing they've probably denied and will deny several students with mediocre GPAs with amazing life experiences yet admit people who study 24/7 with 3.9's. Not that these people are uncool, but by this UCSD is only honestly hurting their student body, and thus their reputation. By the way I'm not saying I'm cooler than these people. My main protest is that I had all the qualifications for TAG but couldn't sign it because of overenrollment. </p>

<p>My Questions:
-What should I mention in my appeal letter? (Is the above argument worth mentioning, in a friendly way?)
-Do they get back to you with a personal reply to your appeal? Or is it just a "yes" or "no"?</p>

<p>Thank you in advance. I seriously appreciate all of you guys (esp. emilsinclair09). Your daily anxiety on this board reveals how ambitious and dedicated you guys are.</p>

<p>good luck because you’re not going to appeal that because it’s clearly stated. they review based on GPA and Units taken. Sorry, but if that weak appeal is what you’re using, you’re going to stay rejected (assuming you are rejected)</p>

<p>No it is not worth mentioning that your non-dweeb status is the reason why you should be admitted.</p>

<p>I would advise against giving them any advice on how to do their jobs. Recommending they look at your EC’s couldn’t hurt. That’s all I got.</p>

<p>Hahaha…I wouldn’t waste my breath criticizing the way they choose people (remember these are the people that might/might not admit you!)…Instead, I would stick to hard evidence of what you have accomplished, why it’s important, etc…Really, they’re looking for you to say something amazing that you haven’t already mentioned. But if you don’t have this, like I said, I would elaborate on your “amazing life experiences” and what you can bring to their school…Also…chill dude…you might have gotten in ;)</p>

<p>All the Best!!</p>

<p>Don’t put any information that isn’t available in your application.</p>

<p>Explaining that your ECs or essays were fantastic will not get you admitted.</p>

<p>If you are denied, I think the only basis for your appeal could be on your upward grade tend if circumstances were not included in your application.</p>

<p>Be sure to substantiate any claims with evidence.</p>

<p>you guys are wasting time giving him help if he’s going to appeal on the premise that they don’t read the personal statement and only judge on the GPA and Units taken. This is stupid. I couldn’t find the '09-'10 version of the matrix, but i have it on my computer.</p>

<p>this is an outdated one, but the guidelines are the same. it’s on page two.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/sas/ets/ReferenceMat/Matrix03_04.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/sas/ets/ReferenceMat/Matrix03_04.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>enjoy wasting time on an appeal that will not go through if you base it on them looking at GPA and units only.</p>

<p>If you decide to write an appeal letter to UCSD you should include new and compelling information that was not on your application. UCSD doesn’t offer much information on the appeal process but here is what i found from the UC counselors website:
UCSD
Applicants who believe an error was made may write a letter of appeal. Applicants must write their own letters. Transfer applicants should include updated official transcripts from each of the schools they have attended. Direct appeals to UC San Diego, Admissions and Relations With Schools, Attn: Transfer Admission Appeals, 9500 Gilman Drive, MC 0021, La Jolla, CA 92093.</p>

<p>[University</a> of California - Counselors](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/educators/counselors/adminfo/transfer/advising/answers/applying.html]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/educators/counselors/adminfo/transfer/advising/answers/applying.html)</p>

<p>A student with a 3.9 would show me that he or she is prepared for UC level coursework. A 3.19 on the other hand…</p>

<p>Btw, I still think you will get in. Don’t jump to conclusions so soon.</p>

<p>@Cali Trumpet</p>

<p>“A 3.19 on the other hand…”</p>

<p>“Don’t jump to conclusions so soon.”</p>

<p>Lol…</p>

<p>someone said that last year they accepted everyone over a 3.0, so you might want to hold off on writing that letter…</p>

<p>@predictthisflick</p>

<p>I’m guessing you didn’t catch my playful tone. GPA, imo, is not a measure of intelligence, but rather work ethic. Surely, everyone could earn a 4.0, or close to it, if they slaved over their studies day-after-day. </p>

<p>I understand the OP’s point, but it is just rather silly that he is freaking out, when in fact, he will probably be admitted in the end.</p>

<p>I don’t understand at all how this is “ludicrously unfair” at all. It’s not like UCSD tries to hide the fact that their only two admission factors are GPA and units. How can anyone even complain that UCSD makes it too difficult to get in as a transfer? </p>

<p>There are two possible reasons you wrote this post. 1) You didn’t know this was the way UCSD admitted students or 2) You knew but still couldn’t get a good enough GPA to get in.</p>

<p>Both of these are still your fault. Trying to project your own shortcomings on to the UCSD admission policy is pretty damn immature and irresponsible. </p>

<p>Having said that, I wouldn’t worry about this cause you’ll probably get in anyway :]</p>

<p>it’s impossible to say that you didn’t know GPA and Units were part of the equation. he didn’t know it was ONLY GPA and Units. Regardless, it’s in the link i gave you above. if you’re planning to appeal based on that, you’re going to get shot down because it’s in a document.
i.e not new and compelling information</p>

<p>wait, so I can’t get into a top program in one of the world’s top schools with a 1.6 GPA and a curriculum comprised of underwater basket weaving and art? You know how hard it is to weave underwater? SHIII… man ***?</p>

<p>also, in your case for overenrollment, i petitioned for two weeks before i got into the english class i needed. your case shouldn’t have been any different.</p>

<p>Oh man, highway hitch hiking is taking a tole on my thumb. And nose picking is intense late in the semester…</p>

<p>There is no reason to get ****ed at a school for looking at only GPA and units. You should have known this the day you stepped into CCC. For your problem with over enrollment, I had to go to two different CCC to finish my classes, so there are options out there.</p>

<p>@OP
You haven’t even gotten your decision yet and you’re already complaining? Why don’t you actually wait for your decision first before coming here and making fool out of yourself.</p>

<p>@Cali Trumpet
“Surely, everyone could earn a 4.0, or close to it, if they slaved over their studies day-after-day.”</p>

<p>Easier said then done. It’s that kind of logic that people use to reassure themselves they “could” have gotten a 4.0 but chose other more “fruitful” endeavors. Your GPA doesn’t define you, but do not belittle the effort of those who actually achieve a 4.0. (And I’m not just talking about 4.0 at CC).</p>

<p>Well thank you all for the beating, please let me rest now, in my cast</p>

<p>No! </p>

<p>I wonder what constitutes a safe # of units. I’ll have something like 80 at the end of this semester (and hopefully, will be maintaining my 3.2). </p>

<p>I’ll agree that there’s no “recipe” for a 4.0 GPA, but I don’t know anyone at my CC that has one. The best people I know, live thousands of miles away from any family and despite having some hint of a social life, don’t really do much except study. I’d challenge a 4.0 student to live in my house and get a 4.0 :wink: </p>

<p>XD</p>