<p>STERRRNN STEEEEERN ::slobbers::
How much more difficult is it compared to CAS of NYU?</p>
<p>What is the SAT range and GPA range for Stern?
Are there any business undergrad places that are a bit easier on admission? But are still respectable :]
Thank you.</p>
<p>Much more difficult. Average GPA for Stern is in the high 1300s-1400s. I think the acceptance rate at Stern is about 25%.</p>
<p>1412 for this year's class :[ Im screwed</p>
<p>i thought you were already in stern.</p>
<p>I am, just saying that because it means my class is on average very intelligent, so generally lower curves and what not.</p>
<p>i've always heard that Stern employs pretty hard grading curves anyway.</p>
<p>stern kids are dumb, very few can do math. A low SAT score means youre dumb (or dont care) whereas a high score means nothing, just that you can do basic math, writing, and have basic verbal skills. Half the stern scholars get kicked out every year for falling below 3.5. All you have to do is consistently beat the median grades and youll keep about a 3.5.</p>
<p>The Stern curve, as it was in my day.
20% A
40%B
40% C and below</p>
<p>OK Someone help me out...im a complete novice to college and stuff</p>
<p>Im an IB student, and I applied to NYU STERN ED and they said they will put me in their GSP program for 2 years n then i can get gaurenteed tranfer to stern after two years...is that good?</p>
<p>or should i just go to University of Florida which is free because of state scholarship....</p>
<p>Also, I could apply to other schools on my list, Cornell, UPENN Wharton, DUKE, and UMICH...I'm kinda goin into business...
please gimmme suggestions...</p>
<p>everything is awesome on my record, grades, ECS etc...just my sats are in the 1200s....lemme know whats up guys please.</p>
<p>^ woah getting into GSP from applying to stern is really rare.. I say go for it o_O</p>
<p>youre not getting into cornell, duke or wharton unless by stroke of luck or error. especially if you were put in GSP at NYU. personally if i was put in GSP id be offended, its basically being rejected from the school and being asked for 40,000 a year of your money. but hey, if you got cash to burn, go for it.</p>
<p>marxist, you obvious have never heard of affirmative action.</p>
<p>and stern isnt as bad as you say it is. if wharton is a 10, stern and cornell aem is a 8.5, and everyone else less than 7. maybe a 6.5 for ross because they screw you over by making you go there and not accepting you.</p>
<p>thats what i figured...but i called stern today...they pretty much said that once u end GSP after 3 semesters or 2 years, ur still on par, and same position as stern kids....ur just doing ur liberal arts first...</p>
<p>^ exactly</p>
<p>personally if i was put in GSP id be offended, its basically being rejected from the school and being asked for 40,000 a year of your money. but hey, if you got cash to burn, go for it.</p>
<p>no
its not being rejected</p>
<p>I don't know about the difficulty level of GSP, but I'm fairly certain it's less than Stern/CAS. Questions I would be asking are do employers see my time in GSP? Do I still end up with a full Stern degree? Because if there is no downfall in that regard, Id definitely do it for 2 years. You'll most likely end up with a higher GPA.</p>
<p>its far easier. its all kids that didnt get into CAS, Stern, meaning sub 1250 SATs and lower GPAs and their curriculum is designed for that. They get a two year associates degree and its gpa stands alone, you get a new gpa in CAS or Stern. GSP is looked down on by CAS and Stern kids, not literally, but as being the lower tail of the school. Employers see that you went to GSP. On the other end of the spectrum are the CAS and Stern Scholars (which i was) that usually get half to full tuition scholarships and free trips every year to random countries (we went to prague and paris). There is some downside to GSP in that its not intellectually stimulating, youre not actually in any nyu school (youre in the school of continuing and prof studies doing an associates degree) youre generally paying full tuition unless youre an "under represented minority". All nyu undergrad alum know what gsp is, my friends in scholars would make fun of em (one was dating a gsp girl, not so bright. she thought argentina was a city, go figure). I wouldnt hire a gsp student simply cuz its illogical, why not go to state school, save money, do well and transfer in? theres a little risk there, but paying that much to be put in a special program for kids that nyu doesnt consider smart enough to be put in the normal program is ridiculous (im not calling you dumb, but thats what nyu implies with gsp despite whatever euphamisms youve heard from gsp/nyu and other people on the boards about nyu not having room to commodate you). Despite the risk, you can at least get into Ross or one of the other top business schools if you apply to a bunch of them coming out of public school. </p>
<p>In GSP you actually dont count as being an undergrad at nyu, and so your SAT score and GPA dont hurt them on their figures for colleges ranking. </p>
<p>I know one kids who got into stern from gsp and got a job with jefferies broadview for banking, so it has worked out for people. at the same time, i know ONE kid who its worked out for, the front office jobs go to a competative pool of people from the top schools, so youd have to make up for it by interning constantly through the school year and summers where ever you can. the competition is high for those internships between NYU and Columbia students and youd have to start interning while youre in GSP. Also, GSP is comprised (majorty) of ******* dumb rich kids from LI and NJ who do nothing but go to clubs all week, so if you cant stand those kinds of people thats something to think about, it might get on your nerves considering theyll be in many of your classes. Though thats an opinion, its a fairly accurate one. State schools, depending on what state youre in, have a broad range of kids so itll be easier to stay ambitious and be around people you enjoy.</p>
<p>You can never hide youre past performance with banks and consultancies when going for the best jobs. they want your entire background (dont believe me, go to goldman and do a fake app, you entire in ap tests and scores, SAT scores, etc. as well as each class youve taken at college with a grade, they all ask for transcripts) and do a full and expensive background check on you to make sure you were a 100% honest.</p>
<p>oh also,</p>
<p>wharton and upenn, princeton, yale, harvard, MIT and Sloan, Caltech are 10s</p>
<p>northwestern, uchicago, dartmouth, berkeley and Hass, UVA, etc are 8s, 9s</p>
<p>gtown and SFS, Cornell, NYU and Stern, UMich and Ross, UT-Austin, BC, etc are in the 7s</p>
<p>then everything else.</p>
<p>at a point where your school is in that third tier, you have to set yourself apart with high gpa, internships, awards, board scores, etc.</p>
<p>there are alot of schools out there bud. 50-60% of goldmans entering banking class comes from harvard, princeton and wharton. maybe more than 50-60. Sterns regarded as good, but dont think that it means youre smart just for going to any of these schools, youre still an individual. id EASILY hire the valedictorian of UConn over a slacker from Stern, hands down.</p>
<p>g0ld platinum the average sat for this year is 1423
and the average GPA is 3.77</p>
<p>so marxist...as a gsp kid, u wont participate in the IBEX program?or like the other programs that regular stern kids participate in?</p>
<p>i called stern today and asked
they said that there no way i can get into the stern school
because of the "high qualiified aplicant pool this year"
i agree..with me, everything was perfect but my sat scores, in the 1200s.
are u sure</p>
<p>now im thinkin to just apply to umich and get my app from uf, compare the two, and go to their respective business schoool...would that be better than to shell out 40k on a school for 2 years? i mean, i want a nice job after i grad. but im considering law school for internation law and bussiness, etc</p>
<p>help me out, cuz i no u have expiernce</p>
<p>I was talking about avg college GPA.</p>
<p>GSP actually has its benefits. ie not getting screwed over in writing the essay. we have smaller classes. the reason we are in gsp is because we have lower SAT scores (which shouldnt count, becuase SAT scores mean NOTHING. stupid people did better than i did on them). i was a little disappointed when i foudn out i was in GSP, but i am very ahppy with it now. And fyu - no employers know you were in gsp so dont listen to these idiots.</p>