<p>I attended an information session at Stern in October and i liked how the school was presented. But I've been hearing from a few people that Stern is extremely over rated. Is this true? How are they with internships? Do the advisors give a lot of attention to each student? How are the classes and other programs? Thanks...this would help.</p>
<p>it's so underrated. People outside the business clique rarely know about it -- knowing only Harvard B-School. Anyways, it has great internships (suppossedly better than Wharton). Advisors are able to give a lot of attention to each student because the school is relatively small with only 500 students.</p>
<p>harvard business school?! why would you say that.. harvard doesnt even have an undergrad business program. any hs senior that really wants to pursue business undergrad..def knows about schools like.. upenn wharton & nyu stern. </p>
<p>it only has such great internships because of the area. but college should be more than just getting internships. i feel its a bit overrated... and you really need to love being in the city to spend all your 4 years of college in the city.. w/o a real campus.</p>
<p>two words: Wall street! Sterns got great connections/internships with it. Wharton doesn't. I know someone in Wharton who has to travel from PA to NYC for his internship. What's better now?</p>
<p>yeah but its not so much the internships you have during the year... college students can always have an internship in nyc in the summer. why someone would pick wharton over nyu stern-- the connections you can make at wharton (more so than stern) is what's really important. the people you meet.. all could help towards your future</p>
<p>i'm not saying stern's bad or whatever.. of course its a good school. i just think its a little overrated. i know a lot of people who have gone or are going there.. and yes.. some do love it there..but some also hate how there's no sense of community, or that they dont get enough attention from the advisors, stuff like that.</p>
<p>It all depends on how you look at it. In one way Stern is underrated...its an amazing business school that really never gets as much attention as Wharton. The connections you can make at Stern (and NYU in general) are pretty amazing...many Stern profs. are current or former high ranking execs or wall st. big wigs...and with charging over $40K a year...NYU has no shortage of rich kids, who'll make great future connections (the same is the case with Penn I'm sure). Overall, I'd give a slight nod to Wharton simply because of its name (though Stern has been closing the gap in this area), at the end of the day, both are damn good undergrad business schools. </p>
<p>That brings me to my next point...business schools are VERY overrated in general (no offense to anyone here). I seriously don't even know what the point of having undergrad b-schools is...example....I was a liberal arts major, but ended up working on wall st. after college...any finance or other business related skill you need can easily be taught. If fact business skills learned from experience are vastly superior to something learned in the classroom via hypo or case study, being part of the action beats reading about it in a book. In analyst hiring, many wall st. firms actually prefer liberal arts majors to business majors because they are less one-dimensional. Figuring out a discount rate or doing a valuation of a co. based on industry specifics (things I-bankers do) is not brain surgery by any means, and certainly doesn't require a business degree. </p>
<p>If I ever go back to school (I'm having way too much right now), it won't be b-school, it'll be law school, which is much more of a challenge. A friend of mine from undergrad is currently at a prestigious law school, he's took MBA level classes there (the b-school is also highly regarded)...the consensus among everyone is that the b-school classes are indeed a joke...the point of going to b-school is to network, not get some fake degree (how many people put "MBA" next to their name like "MD" or "Esq"?). That begs the issue, why even have undergrad b-schools?..its not like an undergrad business degree is a prerequisite for a MBA, and networking in college certainly isn't reserved for undergrads with business majors. This is just the way I see it. </p>
<p>-NYU class of '00</p>
<p>what did you major in at nyu? i've heard a lot about some firms liking the liberal arts student vs the undergrad business student as well... that's why i'm still applyin to duke & dartmouth. no idea what i should do tho.. ahh..</p>
<p>I majored in philo, minored in history. I took a few math classes and could have minored in it also, I needed one more class (firms love seeing hard math w/calc....it blows a finance major out of the water), but like many college seniors, I crafted up a sweet schedule instead. I started out in i-banking, recently moved to a hedge fund (better hours, more $-can't beat that)...there have always been more liberal arts majors than business majors in these places. Even amongst people with grad degrees, there are a good number of people w/JDs and PhD's etc., who seem to edge out MBAs quite often when hires are made at those levels.</p>
<p>I'd take Duke over Dartmouth....I had friends from high school who went to both, I've visited both, Duke seems to be a better overall experience. </p>
<p>Business skill is not something you learn in the classroom, but rather with real world experience.</p>
<p>do you think where one gets their undergrad education from is that important then? because.. you've become very successful, without having to graduate from an Ivy or anything. and some people who graduated from like harvard or somethin probably don't have as great a job as you do. hmm.. i dont kno. i'm just stressing over this college stuff... thanks a lot though for your help! it's really cleared up a lot of the issues i've been worrying about...</p>
<p>I'm not sure what your question is or implies, but I'll try to address it. I think undergrad absolutely matters....and NYU is an amazing school, if I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't change a thing. </p>
<p>Outside of Harvard, Yale and Princeton, being from another ivy frankly doesn't mean all that much (how many people in Tokyo, Paris or even Iowa have heard of Dartmouth or Brown?). I got into 3 ivys (Cornell, Penn A&S, Brown), I chose NYU because my dad and uncle went there, I knew I'd love being in NY, and I'd be playing varsity soccer there. So, if you get into one of the big 3--go there, but between the lower ivys, and good schools like NYU, Gtown, Notre Dame, UCLA, Duke, etc., go to the place you want to be at the most. </p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>how are all the diff. schools at nyu rated?
which ones are more well known and which ones are less..?</p>
<p>and how are they ranked against each other</p>
<p>Silver,</p>
<p>The schools of NYU are pretty much similar, though small variations do exist. The general consensus is CAS, Stern, and Tisch, are more competitive than the rest of NYU undergrad as far as admission standards (though not by all that much), while School of ED, GSP, and Social Work are on the less competitive side....I guess Gallatin would sort of be in the middle....though its tending to get more popular every year. Other than that, the schools really do have rougly the same admission standards, and its unlikely for someone who doesn't get into one NYU school to get into the another.</p>
<p>Oh ok, thanks.
What are the acceptance rates overall, and more specifically for CAS?
If I want to major in English, Art History or Philosophy I should be applying to CAS right?</p>
<p>And where is it that these Olsen twins go to? Are they actually smart or did they just pay lots!!</p>
<p>Olsens are at Gallatin....one very small of a number of reasons why I eventually chose CAS. Mary Kate & Ahsley Olsen! Heaven help us!!</p>
<p>I cannot believe they actually go to uni..
are you sure they attend??</p>
<p>So Gallatin is the school of self-study or whatever right? I wonder what course they have put together for themselves...</p>
<p>They'll occasionally be a photo out of one of them on there way to a class looking like a loony. There was speculation last month about whether one or both of them would drop out. I don't know, though.</p>
<p>Silver,</p>
<p>Correct, you'd apply to CAS for those majors. NYU does not publish acceptance rates by separate school, though they are pretty similar across the board. </p>
<p>I'm not sure re: the Olsen twins, I'm sure they are not stupid (prob. not rocket scientists either), I'm also sure their celebrity status was a factor in admissions..which is very common, eg Natalie Portman at Harvard, Bush girl at Yale, supermodel Chrisity Turlington was at NYU when I was there (not as hot going to class in sweatpants) and loads of others. </p>
<p>I have no problems with celeb. status being considered in admissions, schools look for vaious talents..academic, athletic, etc. If someone has made millions by themselves and is a household name by age 18, thats has to count for something in college admissions.</p>
<p>:) YEP! hehe I hear ya!!
The Olsen girls must have some sort of brains... they're the richest teens in the world!! They know a thing or two in business...</p>
<p>Anyhoo... Christy TURLINGTON went to NYU as well?
Hmm interesting!</p>
<p>I was hoping to bump into Julia Stiles at Columbia, but I got rejed ED.... Oh well.</p>
<p>So, jwblue, what would you recommend someone enthusiastic about business do, then? Apply to a liberal arts program?</p>
<p>(Stern '09)</p>
<p>hahah.. someone i know goes to gallatin [in the same year as the olsen twins]
she told me that they dropped out.. mary kate went to rehab..and i guess her sister left with her.</p>