Summer Seminar?

<p>how many pushups do we have to do????</p>

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<p>Well, there is no set amount; As many as you can in two minutes. I would suggest working on them as often as possible, in between television shows etc. When I went to NASS, I was still in shape from track and field. I was able to pump out nearly 80 before my arms started to shake. I guess it all has to do with how much your body is able to handle. ;-). The max for girls is 51 (CFA: PRT is different I believe) but if you exceed that and show you want to push yourself, the cadre may very well be impressed!</p>

<p>Key: As many as you can. Push yourself. :-)</p>

<p>I went to session 2 (A-1-1). The highest number of pushups that you will do is the morning with the navy seal workout... you some 8-count thing, if I remember correctly. The longest run is 3 miles. However, I'm sure you'll run more and do more pushups the day of mock sea trials. Unless you were me, hyperextended your elbow, and did random PT to replace the pushups. :D</p>

<p>for the CFA - don't exceed the max on any of the stations (besides the running/b-ball throw as it's hard to tell if you're going to beat the max). they told us this at SLS and NASS and i'm pretty sure the cadre stop you from exceeding the max. i believe the order is b-ball throw, pull ups/arm hang, shuttle run, sit ups, push ups, mile run. you can't get a higher score for exceeding the max (hence the term 'max') and it will just make you more tired for the next station. if you want to impress the cadre, do it during the PRT (when they only give you minimums) or during PT or Sea Trials.</p>

<p>Well, it depends on what your goals are for NASS. My cadre told me to do as many as I could or as much as I could at every station. At the end of the week you are ranked and this affects the Evaluations your cadre give you (Its all part of your complete Candidate packet). Also, at the end of the week, there is an awards ceremony type thing and several people are recognized for different aspects and traits that are characteristic of a Naval Officer, or that show spirit. These awards are also helpful in the evaluation I am sure, or so said my cadre. Everyone has a different opinion. If you want to push yourself and you know that it will not affect your performance in any of the other stations, then I say, "Go for it" unless told otherwise by your cadre. Definatley listen to them. They have all been through at least one year of the Academy and are all very knowledgeable. Yet, every cadre has a different opinion. Just go along with it. Do your best! (In any other case, my viewpoint may change, but my belief is that each and every candidate fortunate enough to go to a Summer Seminar should take full advantage of it. You only have one chance to make a first impression. Make it a GREAT one.) </p>

<p>I also attended Air Force Summer Seminar and found that all of the Cadets wanted to see you exceed the max. I remember at the pull-up and push-up and sit-up stations, the Cadets were all standing around me saying, "one more, come on, you can do it" even after I had maxed the stations out.</p>

<p>I would have to agree with hersheybear that, if you were to choose which one to go "full out" on, so to say, it would be the PRT because there is no set maximum.</p>

<p>PlebeMom2012, congrats to your son. You must be so proud. Thats a wonderful accomplishment.</p>

<p>Can having a bad NASS hurt your chances of getting in?</p>

<p>Like as of now, I can't do 1 pull-up. I know, its pretty sad.</p>

<p>if you're a guy you'll have do at least a few pull ups to pass the CFA. your score on the CFA WILL affect your admission to any of the academies. if you fail one of the sections you've failed the whole thing. you can't get into any of the academies w/o passing the CFA.</p>

<p>like trackattack said, your cadre do evals on your performance at NASS. however a good eval can only help you so much, and a bad eval can only hurt you so much. give NASS everything you've got and show that you have the right spirit, and you'll (probably) get a good eval.</p>

<p>i still say that the CFA is the one part of the week when you should think a bit strategically. if you reach the max in push ups or something, it's probably wise to just stop there. you do have to use your arms when you run and it can hurt to have tired arms. give your max effort on all the stations, but just keep in mind that exceeding the max standard will not earn you more points. passing all of the stations is required for admittance to the academy, while a good eval from your cadre (which shouldn't be affected if you stop at the max - you should be commended for making it that far) only adds a few points to your WCS. you have the whole rest of the week to show your cadre that you'll be a great midshipman. also like trackattack said, there are awards for best CFA performance at the end of the week (i think it's called Iron Mike/Michelle). but you won't get a higher score than the max even if you exceed the max in all of the stations.</p>

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Like as of now, I can't do 1 pull-up. I know, its pretty sad.

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<p>well the good news is that you have time to work on this-
would suggest getting some good workouts that develop upper arm strength, and then get started on a program and - more importantly- stick with it. You have time- the key is not to waste any of it! </p>

<p>Best of luck!</p>

<p>I know this is really really a pathetic question...
but do they let the ladies do the pushups on their knees? </p>

<p>i know i have a pushup fixation, but i really suck at them.
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<p>No. You're always required to do real pushups. They're a little more lax on going down to 90 degrees but you have to do real push ups.
On the bright side when I was at NASS and doing the CFA and we did pushups, it was on a hardwood floor so my hands slid. I had less than 20 and I got in even without retaking it.</p>

<p>The thing is, they do know that oyu get tired. Then they sometimes let you do air force push ups (on your knees). The good thing about the CFA at NASS is that it will give you a great idea of what you need to work on. You can submit more CFAs all the way up until the deadline.</p>

<p>lol, what was the kind of push up where you lay on your back and pushed the air up? i think they called those zoomie push ups, too.</p>

<p>Ouch, zoomie pushups... :-O</p>

<p>Anyways, does your group leader (not sure what they're called, squad leaders?) write a report on every summer seminarian (what else to call them?) thats in their group? I know that at the USAFA summer seminar that happens but I wasn't sure for NASS.</p>

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...air force push ups (on your knees)...

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<p>lol- it's funny to me how the navy totally teases about the air force: air force pushups, "chairforce", "air farce", etc. all in good fun interservice rivalry and no disrespect intended i'm sure! ;)</p>

<p>yes, they write an evaluation for everyone of the squad members, they (well atleast mine did) interviewed all of us and just asked us questions, then asked about attitudes, because we had a big trouble maker in our squad that she wanted to know about, apparently he hated women in the military, boy did he get a good reaming during indoc night</p>

<p>How intense is the first day of SS? My S has been accepted to Session #3 and will be flying in from japan the day before--can he get through it if he has a bit of jet lag?! He is in good shape. He already has to reschedule a final exam to make the last session...</p>

<p>it's not that intense. when you arrive you put your stuff in your room, change into pt gear and then go play some sports while you wait for everyone to arrive. there's a brief that evening and you meet your squad and company mates, count off, sing blue and gold, and go to bed. the real fun begins the next morning.</p>

<p>well, even the next day isnt too bad because its sunday. It's a pretty lax day, except PT in the morning then couple hours off, for church. Monday is the day he should hope to be all better from jet lag.</p>

<p>I am getting worried because I still have not heard from Annapolis in regards to the Summer Seminar. I was accepted to Air Force SS, but I don't know about the NA. Is anyone in the same boat (no pun intended)? Does anyone know the latest that they're sending out accptances?</p>