<p>I've been accepted to Buff state. But I'm definitely thinking of finishing my application for Plattsburgh. Which one is better? Which one is more active/lively? I want to major in Sociology. I know the sociology department at plattsburgh is much better than that of buff state, but I think buff state may have a higher reputation than plattsburgh. So I'm not sure which one would be better to go.</p>
<p>Are you competitive for admission at Plattsburgh? Deadlines are coming up so you need to finish your application as soon as possible! To answer your question, I would definitely choose Plattsburgh. Its reputation and academics are better IMO. </p>
<p>There's information in previous threads that may answer your questions as well!
1. <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/suny-general/649841-cortland-v-plattsburgh.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/suny-general/649841-cortland-v-plattsburgh.html</a>
2. <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/suny-general/649466-cortland-buffalo-state-potsdam.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/suny-general/649466-cortland-buffalo-state-potsdam.html</a></p>
<p>Deadlines for plattsburgh? I thought it was on a rolling admissions basis. I was told there was no strict deadline.</p>
<p>From the Plattsburgh website:</p>
<p>"Applications receive optimal consideration when submitted by January 15 for the fall semester, and by November 1 for the spring semester. Candidates are encouraged to apply early."</p>
<p>All of the SUNY's have had large increases in applications. The applicant pool has become more competitive---even at the lesser known SUNY"S.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Well then, that's swell.</p>
<p>I suppose I can always transfer if I don't get accepted.</p>
<p>I suppose it's worth taking the chance to apply as long as you don't get too mad if they've run out of slots for the Fall 2009 freshman class. Give it a shot and see what happens. At least you all ready have a backup plan with Buff.</p>
<p>NYSmile -- this will be an interesting year for the SUNYs -- yes some are getting a lot more apps, but my Ds GC says that what also happening is that many students are applying to many more SUNYs than in the past. So it is not clear to her if any more students are applying to SUNYs in total than in the past.</p>
<p>Granted small sample, but what she said, based on our school and neighboring ones, is that the same type child who 2 or 3 years ago would have applied to Binghamton and Albany as a safety is now applying to 8 or more Sunys (Binghamton, SB, Buffalo, Geneseo, with Albany and NP as semi-safeties, and a couple others, possibly Pottsdam, etc as true safetyies). What she doesnt know is are a larger number of kids likely to enroll at sunys.</p>
<p>DaniIsAnarchy - Technically, applications may be received until mid-summer. Spaces are usually filled by then, however. Some SUNYS like to have applications submitted by April 1. I really wouldn't put it past May 1 for decision day and everything. Will you need financial aid? Plattsburgh's priority filing date was Feburary 15 for the FAFSA. I would send your information ASAP. There's still time, but funding may be limited. Also check for any scholarship deadlines so you don't miss the eligibility period!</p>
<p>I did my fafsa a while back already. I had plattsburgh on the list when I first did it, took it off my list, and put it back on like last week..now I'm skeptic on whether I should even bother. I'm applying through the eop program at Plattsburgh. And I will check for scholarships now that you remind me, thanks.</p>
<p>I was accepted at Manhattan College..private school down here,somewhere in the bronx.....ever heard of it? So that's another safety school for me I guess.</p>
<p>But if I get accepted to any of the cunys I applied for, I'm definitely staying here. There's alot of things I'd have to give up if I go away..may not even be worth the money either.</p>
<p>There was an article about New Paltz in the NY times that said they were now placing everyone that applied late, who would've been accepted if they applied earlier, on a waiting list because all the spots are filled. Their deadline is April 1st.</p>
<p>Applications to SUNYs are up, but many are saying that enrollment might stay fairly low so being on a waiting list might not be such a bad thing.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>Sean I agree with you. Applications are up, but no one knows is that the same students applying to more sunys, particularly after it was on the news that Binghamton's ED applications were up 50%. Did the Binghamton applicants then just add Buffalo, SB and more safeties? The waitlist clearing for private schools took forever last summer, and I predict that it will happen this year too. Middle class kids will gladly give up their deposit if they can upgrade their school</p>
<p>DaniIsAnarchy - Since the EOP program is a specialty program, I would complete whatever you have left to do soon. According to E.O.P</a>. Program Admission Process, students must submit the SUNY application, the FAFSA, the EOP form, and documentation of income. My friend applied EOP to Fredonia, and it took a few weeks to process the additional forms she needed to fill out. What else do you need to do for you application? If you're worried about timing, you could always contact the admissions or EOP office. I'm sure they'll be understanding, especially since you're an EOP applicant(even more so if you're first-generation). Perhaps the forms can be emailed to you so you're not wasting time waiting. </p>
<p>Contact Information:
Michele Carpentier, Director Educational Opportunity Program
Phone: (518) 564-2263</p>
<p>I remember hearing about Manhattan College. From what I remember, it's a decent private school in NYC. I don't remember hearing anything bad, but I think a CUNY or SUNY would be more cost efficient. </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>i think kids may be applying to more sunys because financial issues have made attending sunys more likely for them. ie, in the past i knew kids who applied to one or two sunys as their "safeties" - academic AND financial. many of them ended up at private schools. but this year, maybe more parents were telling their kids up front -- you're going to a suny unless you get great aid at a private. if that's the case, you can see why kids would apply to more sunys -- they want to make sure they have a choice, when privates may be less likely to be practical choices -- and they know full well how many other kids applying are in the same situation.</p>
<p>jmho -- but i think more students will end up wanting to attend sunys this year. unless what i'm also reading about private colleges being concerned about enrollment drop offs leads them to be more generous to keep their accepted applicants from going to state schools for affordability reasons.</p>
<p>sean -- are you hearing that "enrollment" or "yield" will be low? two very different things. i've heard a lot of sunys are trying to keep their enrollments down because of state budget cuts -- which wouldn't bode well for those on a wait list. but if you mean that yield will be down (which personally, i questions given the economy -- unless the acceptees are going to other sunys because they have applied to more), that would help those on the wait list.</p>
<p>in general -- this is an admissions year that must be driving admissions offices crazy since they simply can't rely on past trends to predict yield and enrollment.</p>
<p>Iamhere -- I agree with you -- this will be a crazy year. My Ds GC thinks kids put in applications to many more sunys than in the past, she knows that happened at our school, and she says word of mouth it happend all over our county. I would not want to be in enrollment management this year. I think one difficult thing is going to be as wait lists clear all summer, the cascading effect. Kids will put down deposits (many already have, to get a leg up on housing), and are prepared to kiss that deposit goodbye.</p>
<p>I think more kids are applying to SUNYs because they are worried about what kind of aid private schools will give them because of the economy. However, it is being well publicized in my local newspaper that private schools are aware of the effect state schools are having on their yield so they are prepared to be more generous with financial aid. Therefore, you will see a lot of kids applying to SUNYs, but ultimately ending up at a private school. It is just what I think is going to happen. </p>
<p>I know that 11 kids were accepted to SUNY Geneseo from my class of 180 and so far only 2 are attending. (One is an ED applicant and one is an athlete). I am friends with the rest and right now, Geneseo is on the back burner because they received attractive offers from several private schools. Granted they could change their minds but its unlikely. Last year, about 10 kids were accepted to Geneseo and 4 ended up going. The same goes for a lot of other SUNYs.</p>
<p>Either way, I don't know what is going to happen. Admissions doesn't even know; my buddy was wait listed at a certain SUNY (respect for both parties) and he knows some huge alumni. He called her up to see if she could get him in. She talked to the dean of admissions. Long story short the dean of admissions told the alumni that he can't to do anything because of their concern with what is going happen this year in terms of yield. He did say, however, last year he would have let the kid in no questions asked. Very unethical, I know but I figured I would share just to let everyone know what is going through admissions office's minds right now.</p>
<p>Sean, its so hard to predict. So far the private schools are stepping up to the plate in my D's HS too. Certainly the ivies, but also schools a little down. Many of the kids accepted at Binghamton can expect a nice package from a private school. Others are taking private schools just a little less selective, and getting a good package -- and no triple dorms, less classes taught be TAs, etc etc. </p>
<p>On the other hand, inthe more working class areas near me, more kids are looking at CUNYs. If your parents are truly broke, the tuition is the same as SUNY, but many kids can live at home,not just NYC kids, but the close in burbs. CUNY is expanding its honors program, Baruch has an excellent business program, and their are some other great programs.</p>