<p>sahgpin, where in ca do you live and what rec team are you on?</p>
<p>in yards</p>
<p>200 IM - 1.58
100 Fly - 51
100 Back - 57
100 Free - 49</p>
<p>Does anyone know about the quality of club and intramural swim teams as opposed to varsity swim teams in college...for example, michigan has one of the best swim teams in the county (now has michael phelps) so im sure its insanely hard to get on. but how is michigan's club team...and in general...how are club teams in college (such as BU, illinois, George wash, upenn, and others i applied to)</p>
<p>no michael phelps cant swim for them. he is sponsored and is considered a professional swimmer because he models for swim suits and such. </p>
<p>ummm most of those schools that u listed arent powerhouses but upenn has a decent one. im not sure about the rest. avg times to get recruited for ivies is probably high 40s in 100 free, 20s/21s in 50 free, under 2 minutes in IM, under 54 in fly and so on. upenn has a decent one. harvard has the best tho. not familiar with the rest of the schools</p>
<p>sacramento, why do you ask?</p>
<p>Penn's swim team consists of Junior Nat swimmers. Although you said "club" team, I'm not sure if you meant the school team or the actual club sport, swimming, at Penn.</p>
<p>shagpin, I live in California too and am on a rec team. However, I live in Clayton (Bay Area). I thought we might swim against one another.</p>
<p>thanks shrek...yeah i just found out michael phelps isnt swimming for michigan he is an assistant coach...he;s a "voluntary assistant coach" or something like that, i dont remember. And michigan is definitely considered a powerhouse, wisconsin as well. Most ivies have great swim programs-especially harvard....i know a swimmer on harvard and he goes 20 for 50 free and 49 for fly</p>
<p>sophomore times:</p>
<p>100 breast 59.5
200 breast 212
200 IM 156. ...........all in yards</p>
<p>I am in the middle of my season right now, and am already ahead of where I was last year during heavy practice. Aiming for 57 mid by season's end.</p>
<p>PSAT 223/ACT 34/Top 10% (the way my school does it)
Hoping for an Ivy. Gotten unsolicited recruiting letters from Cornell, Yale, Navy, Purdue, Brown, Penn, Texas A&M (?!!) and a few others. They have arrived through my school and my hs coach.</p>
<p>well, I used to swim (had shoulder injuries mid-HS)...I only remember my 100 SCY free time from freshman year (56.08).</p>
<p>My little sister swims, though:
100 LCM fly: 59.5
200 LCM fly: 2:10
200 LCM IM: 2:18
400 LCM IM: 4:53
50 LCM fr: 26.8
100 LCM fr: 59.0</p>
<p>She's quite good.</p>
<p>hahaah, i just quit swim team yesterday. it was hell.</p>
<p>i used to swim year round when i was younger, though, and probably should have stuck with it, but oh well.</p>
<p>haha bulldog..i knew someone would post their academic stats on this message board. Anyway, i went a 1:08:69 for my 100 breast so it looks like im aiming for a 1:04 for the final championships meet. Everything else is solid</p>
<p>Michael Phelps will be on the USS team at UMich Ann Arbor, but not on the college team. That is the "elite" club team but it would have several levels. He is also not a full time student there, just taking a few courses. He is there to work with his coach who was offered the head coaching position there and will probably be one of the Olympic coaches next Olympics.</p>
<p>jamimom...So youre saying theres Varsity swimming team and then another club team associated with Umich..ive swam for a team in the USS before but what youre saying makes no sense...the USS team might practice at Umich but there not part of the school, are they?? get back to me on that, thanks! keep posting!!</p>
<p>No, they are not part of the university. You will find a lot of USS teams who are using college facilities and sometimes the college coach is very involved in that team as well. I think that Michigan with their many Olympians have such a USS team. Pitt also had such an agreement though the Pitt coach did not coach the USS team. I would be willing to bet that there is a club team for the students as well. </p>
<p>As you know, if you are involved in USS, that is the route you pretty much have to take to swim Olympic level, not college swimming. There are often conflicts between the top college swimmers who have NCAA and Olympic aspirations just as many such swimmers have issues with highschool swimming and USS teams. Michigan is one school where a student with Olympic level swim skills can coordiate both, though I do believe they have been critisized during Olympic trial years of sacrificing NCAA results for some of the swimmers' chances for the Olympics. The top swimmers often have strong ties with their coaches and it is not at all unusual for them to follow their coaches to new locations, which is what Michael Phelps is doing. And the coaches stock rises in proportion to their swimmers' success, and Phelps is the biggest thing in swimming right now. It will be interestiing how Phelps will do now that he is "on his own". His life has been tightly regulated up to this point.</p>
<p>yes. like what jamimom says. the best USS team that is sometimes affiliated with a college is UT Austin. the USS swim team there, they changed their name so many times, has won nationals a number of times in the past 20 years</p>
<p>i see..so basically the USS team affiliated with Umich is a bunch of olympic swimmers (NICE!)....and umich also has a varsity team w/o the olympians who go to Umich. SO im sure Umich has many other swimmers who cant walk on to Varsity or compete at the USS level and they do Club (or intramural w/e) which is probably also Very competitive and fun......thats cool</p>
<p>KEEP POSTING GUYS!!!! my 50 free time is not 23:90 wow that was close anyway, i expected to be much faster than my junior year times anyway since i worked during the off season (my junior times are the 1st post) BUMMMP</p>
<p>No, not necessarily are the UMich swimmers NOT olympians. Some of them are. Both Tom Dolan and Eric Namesnik were UMich swimmers AND Olympians and I believe that there is at least one Olympian at UMich on the college team today. The endorsements are not the only reason that Michael Phelps is not a UMICH swimmer. He would find it difficult to get into UMich even with all of these Olympic medals. He has been homeschooled since middle school and is learning disabled, and it is suspected that the homeschooling has not been college prep. The young man has definitely spent most of his time in the pool unlike Mark Spitz, Jenny Thompson who carried heavy academic loads and graduated from college. Spitz trained to become a dentist. Jenny Thompson was accepted to Columbia medical school where she is today, and trains with Badger and the Columbia team though as a non undergrad she is not eligible to swim for a college. She swam for Stanford in her undergrad years. \T</p>
<p>The best way to keep track of where your times stand is to look at the times of certain colleges with swim teams, and see where you stand, and look for the strokes that are going to be needed when you are applying for college. If a team has 3 flyers that are terrific who are non seniors, that may not be a good shot for you unless you are way faster than they are. If the best flyers are seniors, they will be short in that stroke, and they will be looking for a fill in. Also look at the college swim site and see what schools top the D-3 lists and that will give you an idea of what smaller colleges hold swimming higher in esteem in their sports. Some schools are Kenyon, Johns Hopkins, CMU, Emory, Washington U in SL, Denison.</p>
<p>Damn some of you guys are really good. </p>
<p>Senior Guy..
50 free- 24.3
100 free- 55 something.</p>
<p>Do you guys think I could walk-on at UCSB, UCLA, UCSC, or UCSD if I bring my times down to ~23.5 and ~52.9 by the end of the season?</p>