<p>Sorry guys if this sounds pretentious or arrogant in anyway, but I got into Northwestern today and am thrilled. NW was ahead of Wash U on my list b/c i am better fit for a more urban school. Also, like I have itterated already on this board, it serves Wash U right for waitlisting qualified applicants and their admissions policies will not get them to a level of prestige that schools like Duke and Northwestern have anytime soon. Peace people, and I do not think that I will visit this board (Wash U) again. So, good luck to everyone, enjoy Wash U and all it has to offer or any other school that is fortunate for you guys to have.</p>
<p>Please dude, shut up. I'm sorry that you were waitlisted, but I'm sick of reading these complaints.</p>
<p>Goodbye.</p>
<p>To Dog87: I definitely understand where you are coming from, as I have been waitlisted by WUStL but accepted by Northwestern. However, your comments (by coming back onto this board just to spite accepted applicants who had nothing to do with your being waitlisted nor with WUStL's admissions policies) seems like a very egregious error on your part. Be like me and just move on; Northwestern is a great school, and so is WUStL. If Northwestern is one of your top choices while WUStL wasn't, then that is great for you, and I, for one, am happy for you (because this college admissions process can suck a whole lot of energyout of you). Please, move on like the majority of the waitlisted applicants did. You got into a Tier One school. Let's just be happy</p>
<p>I am sorry if i upset anyone, but I just totally and i mean absolutely disagree with Wash U's admissions decisions. My freedom of speech allows me to voice my opinions. I think its a great school but it needs to change its admissions policies in order to achieve a level of greatness like other schools.</p>
<p>I agree with your opinion, Dog87. However, what can we do? In the end, a college is a private institution, not a public one. They are a business, and not all businesses do "business" in the same way. WUStL has chosen a path that is right for them; if they want to waitlist tons of applicants and choose those that they feel showed the most interest, then so be it. They feel this policy has worked for them, and the discontent among the "masses" don't matter because they know that people will continue to apply; applicantions have only been going up. What can you do?</p>
<p>Wow, it's crazy that im in the exact same situation. Wash U wait list, Northwestern acceptance. And though I might not go there because of money issues, it IS my number one and I feel ecstatic to have gotten it. Working this hard had def. payed off. Congrats to getting in!</p>
<p>Also, just to add to my argument. I never visted NW (although I wanted to but never had time to) and did not even interview for NW even when the interview location was only about 16-18 miles away for me because I simply had another obligation that day. I still got into NW and that shows that NW doesn't use interest/guage interest to determine who it accepts while Wash U does, which I think is rediculous. Just b/c someone does not have the time/means to fly out to St. Louis should not hurt his/her chances for admission. Also, the fact that ppl send emails to their regional reps for questions, which they think will ultimately help them in admissions is absolutely rediculous. It is ok in my opinion to ask some questions if you indeed have questions for your regional rep but if you can simply find these answers on the website or from your guidance counselor, do that.</p>
<p>It's</a> no secret; the Admissions office tells you this.</p>
<p>Had you researched the admissions process at this school as you should have, you would have noticed this.</p>
<p>I had to take time out of my senior year to schedule a two-day trip to WUSTL. It required four-hours flights both ways and a night at a hotel.</p>
<p>I got into both. :)</p>
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We do realize, of course, that many students are unable to visit until the end of their senior year of high school. Applicants to Washington University who have not yet visited are given full consideration.
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<p>Sabnetwork, did you fail to see this?</p>
<p>smartaleck123:</p>
<p>You're smart enough to know better.</p>
<p>It's like affirmative action. "It helps URMs without hurting other applicants." Right.</p>
<p>lol you have a point there... but still, its NOT fair to give people an edge (those that were able to visit)... for instance, in my case, its pretty far to visit, i'd havta take a plane ride, and my parents couldn't get off of work... so I wasn't able to visit the campus... why should that be a reason to waitlist me? u know what i'm saying...</p>
<p>I ABSOLUTELY 150 percent agree with you and that is why I don't have the same respect for WUSTL as I do for the real elite schools like NW, Duke, and the ivies that don't use "interest" as a factor whether to accept/reject/waitlist to the incredible extent that Wash U does.</p>
<p>A few things:</p>
<p>1.) Don't judge a university by the habits of its admissions office. It doesn't usually say anything substantial about the university as a whole.</p>
<p>2.) I agree with you guys that it's a silly practice. If I ran a college admissions office, we would not do this.</p>
<p>3.) There are reasons to do this besides boosting their ranking. </p>
<p>Let's say you have student A and student B. Both were accepted and decided to enroll in the college. In some freak coincidence, they have the same exact stats, extracurriculars, and personality. </p>
<p>Student A had WUSTL as his first choice; he loves everything about it.
Student B had WUSTL as his 10th choice-- he got rejected from all the ivies, Stanford, and MIT.</p>
<p>Student A's attitude: Awesome! I got into my dream school! These are going to be the best four years of my life.
Student B's attitude: Aw ****, looks like I'm going to WashU, that TTT. All the kids there are rich and jewish. Ugh.</p>
<p>Which kid would you rather have on your campus? Sure, student B is equally qualified, but he's less likely to be a positive influence on other students and take advantage of everything WUSTL has to ofter.</p>
<p>Again, I don't mean to come to WUSTL's rescue. I'm just trying to present the other side of this issue. It sucks that you guys got waitlisted. It would have awesome to chill with you in the fall. You will end up at a great college anyways.</p>
<p>lol random.. but is that true?
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<p>It's a stereotype. And like all stereotypes, there is some degree of truth to it.</p>
<p>WUSTL about 1/3 to 1/2 jewish.</p>
<p>It's difficult to gauge wealth. Approximately 38% of WUSTL students receive financial aid. That's about average for a school as expensive as WUSTL. 44% of Stanford students are on FinAid.</p>
<p>Am I the only one who thinks this is by the the stupidest thread on this board, and that's saying something. Congrats Dog87, really - Northwestern is a great school and I'm sure you'll be happy there, but grow up. Did you really need to take your time to put that all on the internet? It seems like a pathetic last stab at some sort of superiority now that you are into a "real elite school". Ok, you're right - you are better than all of us. You have overcome the big evil that is Wash U admissions, who is made up of complete idiots for not giving you the acceptance you didn't really want - but were entitled to.</p>
<p>Have that out of your system now? Good.</p>
<p>I have tried to be calm and civil, but I have to say - I am glad you are deciding not to come back to this board. I will not be sad to see you go.</p>
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Let's say you have student A and student B. Both were accepted and decided to enroll in the college. In some freak coincidence, they have the same exact stats, extracurriculars, and personality. </p>
<p>Student A had WUSTL as his first choice; he loves everything about it.
Student B had WUSTL as his 10th choice-- he got rejected from all the ivies, Stanford, and MIT.</p>
<p>Student A's attitude: Awesome! I got into my dream school! These are going to be the best four years of my life.
Student B's attitude: Aw ****, looks like I'm going to WashU, that TTT. All the kids there are rich and jewish. Ugh.</p>
<p>Which kid would you rather have on your campus? Sure, student B is equally qualified, but he's less likely to be a positive influence on other students and take advantage of everything WUSTL has to ofter.
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<p>Well, they are using common application. I doubt it's that obvious to tell who is A or B. It's based on speculation more than anything. So they know their low yield indicates there are many disinterested applicants. What did they do? It seems to me they just kept the agressive mass-mailing and then differentiated those who were disinterested by speculation. That's unfair to many in my opinion. The best way is to design its own application like U of Chicago and Northwestern did--to design its own essay questions, to use "why WashU" essay, and to put up those "annoying" short questions like Northwestern did; but that's gonna shrink the size of application pool and hurt its US News ranking. I think that's what bothers people here.</p>
<p>I got waitlisted at Wash U and rejected from Northwestern, hahaha. Life blows.</p>
<p>Sam Lee:</p>
<p>You are correct.</p>
<p>They basically had three choices: (1) Don't use the common app, (2) Add significantly difficult supplement questions, or (3) Track demonstrated interest.</p>
<p>They chose #3 because it solved two problems at the same time: boosting USnews and getting interested applicants.</p>
<p>I'm willing to bet that 50% of the waitlisted applicants would never have applied if they had to use a special app. Thus, their only real loss was the application fee.</p>