<p>I'm so happy for all of you with these great acceptances and even for the deferrals - yes, I think Elon is a deferral even if called wait list. </p>
<p>Above, in the update, I've removed my son's reference. Please don't put that one back just yet, because it is really not a good picture of things coming in the mail. Eventually, with his approval, I'll give you a complete update. In the meantime, we're wishing the best for all of you!</p>
<p>Okay, I'll join in the fun. :)</p>
<p>UMich academically approved me and gave me the Feb 3 audition date.</p>
<p>Point Park accepted me academically, still waiting to hear about MT (I auditioned last Friday with bearcaat's D - I wonder if we met?? - but mail takes a little longer to get to Korea, and I'm not expecting a letter until after Christmas). I have a good feeling about it though. :)</p>
<p>should we have a separate thread for rejections? One of my d's best friends was not accepted to CCM, his first choice. So I guess the letters are coming out now... :(</p>
<p>FALL 2006 Acceptances:</p>
<p>Academic Acceptances(includes invitations to audition): </p>
<p>aspiringactress1 - U of Michigan, Webster
be<em>a</em>star - U of No. Colorado, OCU
Broadwaywannabe - Otterbein
chrisnoo- u of michigan
cindy013- Point Park, Michigan
drum87 - Otterbein
edmondsg's S - u michigan, ill wesleyan
lexismom's D - OCU, U of A
Melsmom's D -Otterbein
mezzomom's D - Otterbein
mommd's D - Steinhardt
MTpolk - OCU
scogor's d - otterbein, UCF, FSU Michigan</p>
<p>Audition Acceptances (you are into the program):</p>
<p>aspiringactress1-CCM(drama)
bearcaaat - PPU
drum87 - Cal State Fullerton
falloffstage - PPU, Millikin
Melsmom's D - PPU (jazz dance)
Michaelsmom's S - PPU (MT-final decision)
ThespianDreams - SUNY Potsdam</p>
<p>BA Non Audition Acceptances:</p>
<p>falloffstage - Northern Kentucky University</p>
<p>Waitlisted/Deferred:</p>
<p>lexismom's d - Elon
Melsmom's D - Elon
scogor's D - Elon</p>
<p>FALL 2006 Acceptances:</p>
<p>Academic Acceptances(includes invitations to audition): </p>
<p>aspiringactress1 - U of Michigan, Webster
be<em>a</em>star - U of No. Colorado, OCU
Broadwaywannabe - Otterbein
chrisnoo- u of michigan
cindy013- Point Park, Michigan
drum87 - Otterbein
edmondsg's S - u michigan, ill wesleyan
lexismom's D - OCU, U of A
Melsmom's D -Otterbein
mezzomom's D - Otterbein
mommd's D - Steinhardt
MTpolk - OCU
samia525 - PP, UM
scogor's d - otterbein, UCF, FSU Michigan</p>
<p>Audition Acceptances (you are into the program):</p>
<p>aspiringactress1-CCM(drama)
bearcaaat - PPU
drum87 - Cal State Fullerton
falloffstage - PPU, Millikin
Melsmom's D - PPU (jazz dance)
Michaelsmom's S - PPU (MT-final decision)
ThespianDreams - SUNY Potsdam</p>
<p>BA Non Audition Acceptances:</p>
<p>falloffstage - Northern Kentucky University</p>
<p>Waitlisted/Deferred:</p>
<p>lexismom's d - Elon
Melsmom's D - Elon
scogor's D - Elon</p>
<p>FALL 2006 Acceptances:</p>
<p>Academic Acceptances(includes invitations to audition): </p>
<p>aspiringactress1 - U of Michigan, Webster
be<em>a</em>star - U of No. Colorado, OCU
Broadwaywannabe - Otterbein
chrisnoo- u of michigan
cindy013- Point Park, Michigan
drum87 - Otterbein
edmondsg's S - u michigan, ill wesleyan
lexismom's D - OCU, U of A
Melsmom's D -Otterbein
mezzomom's D - Otterbein
mommd's D - Steinhardt
MTpolk - OCU
samia525 - PP, UM
scogor's d - otterbein, UCF, FSU Michigan</p>
<p>Audition Acceptances (you are into the program):</p>
<p>aspiringactress1-CCM(drama)
bearcaaat - PPU
chrisnoo- NYU CAP 21 (Final)
drum87 - Cal State Fullerton
falloffstage - PPU, Millikin
Melsmom's D - PPU (jazz dance)
Michaelsmom's S - PPU (MT-final decision)
ThespianDreams - SUNY Potsdam</p>
<p>BA Non Audition Acceptances:</p>
<p>falloffstage - Northern Kentucky University</p>
<p>Waitlisted/Deferred:</p>
<p>lexismom's d - Elon
Melsmom's D - Elon
scogor's D - Elon</p>
<p>Chris, you got in????? That's GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats! The worries for you are over!</p>
<p>My D said you were a nice kid when she ran into you at your audition and that if you ever got in, contact her so wahoo for you and go celebrate!
Susan</p>
<p>My D got two academic acceptances in the past couple of days:
Otterbein and Bowling Green.</p>
<p>Happy for your daughter! A step in a positive direction...way to go!</p>
<p>Chrisnoo - that's really super. Congratulations!</p>
<p>Add me to the list of acceptances. NYU - CAP @!</p>
<p>FALL 2006 Acceptances:</p>
<p>Academic Acceptances(includes invitations to audition): </p>
<p>anothermomwithquestions d- Otterbein, Bowling Green
aspiringactress1 - U of Michigan, Webster
be<em>a</em>star - U of No. Colorado, OCU
Broadwaywannabe - Otterbein
chrisnoo- u of michigan
cindy013- Point Park, Michigan
drum87 - Otterbein
edmondsg's S - u michigan, ill wesleyan
lexismom's D - OCU, U of A
Melsmom's D -Otterbein
mezzomom's D - Otterbein
mommd's D - Steinhardt
MTpolk - OCU
samia525 - PP, UM
scogor's d - otterbein, UCF, FSU Michigan</p>
<p>Audition Acceptances (you are into the program):</p>
<p>aspiringactress1-CCM(drama)
bearcaaat - PPU
chrisnoo- NYU CAP 21 (Final)
drum87 - Cal State Fullerton
falloffstage - PPU, Millikin
Melsmom's D - PPU (jazz dance)
Michaelsmom's S - PPU (MT-final decision)
ThespianDreams - SUNY Potsdam
Weetziebat223- NYU CAP 21 Final</p>
<p>BA Non Audition Acceptances:</p>
<p>falloffstage - Northern Kentucky University</p>
<p>Waitlisted/Deferred:</p>
<p>lexismom's d - Elon
Melsmom's D - Elon
scogor's D - Elon</p>
<p>Chrisnoo and weetziebat223</p>
<p>Congratulations! - when you say final, we presume you're finished and know that school is your final decision? If so, that makes a couple of very satisfied and joyous households! Makes it a great holiday for both of you. Best wishes to all others academically accepted and those deferred/waitlisted (certainly very different from a standard academic waitlist.)</p>
<p>If I don't post beforehand, which I rarely do, we wish all here a great holiday, as stress free as possible. We're constantly reminded of those things we can control and those we can't. For those of you left w/in the process, hope you can keep working hard and be satisfied that you're giving your best effort. Hope it's a Happy 2006 for all!</p>
<p>abparent</p>
<p>abparent, those are lovely wishes!</p>
<p>For Chrisnoo, WeetzieBat223 and TheaterGuy (who should be on that list for CAP21, it IS FINAL because NYU is Early Decision which is binding. They HAVE to go (not that they don't want to, mind you, LOL). </p>
<p>Best to all,
Susan</p>
<p>FALL 2006 Acceptances (Final means you attending):</p>
<p>Academic Acceptances(includes invitations to audition): </p>
<p>anothermomwithquestions d- Otterbein, Bowling Green
aspiringactress1 - U of Michigan, Webster
be<em>a</em>star - U of No. Colorado, OCU
Broadwaywannabe - Otterbein
chrisnoo- u of michigan
cindy013- Point Park, Michigan
drum87 - Otterbein
edmondsg's S - u michigan, ill wesleyan
lexismom's D - OCU, U of A
Melsmom's D -Otterbein
mezzomom's D - Otterbein
mommd's D - Steinhardt
MTpolk - OCU
samia525 - PP, UM
scogor's d - otterbein, UCF, FSU Michigan</p>
<p>Audition Acceptances (you are into the program):</p>
<p>aspiringactress1-CCM(drama)
bearcaaat - PPU
chrisnoo- NYU CAP 21 (Final)
drum87 - Cal State Fullerton
falloffstage - PPU, Millikin
Melsmom's D - PPU (jazz dance)
Michaelsmom's S - PPU (MT-final decision)
TheaterGuy- NYU Cap 21 Final
ThespianDreams - SUNY Potsdam
Weetziebat223- NYU CAP 21 Final</p>
<p>BA Non Audition Acceptances:</p>
<p>falloffstage - Northern Kentucky University</p>
<p>Waitlisted/Deferred:</p>
<p>lexismom's d - Elon
Melsmom's D - Elon
scogor's D - Elon</p>
<p>Has anyone heard yet about OCU?</p>
<p>Read a recent post on the OCU forum that explains that the letters are in the mail. Some have heard and some have not yet gotten it but should any day. Some folks have opted to not post their decisions for a while. But they are in the mail and some have arrived, some have not. Read the OCU forum for the word on this.
Susan</p>
<p>Accepted: College of Charleston (Academic)
Rejected: Brown (ED) Not surprised ...</p>
<p>Susan,</p>
<p>I have two former students happily performing in MT at Harvard. I have another former student who is currently acting and directing at Princeton and another H.S. senior who just got a Princeton acceptance yesterday! </p>
<p>But, I have one who got a Brown defferal yesterday. </p>
<p>Since you are a Brown mother, please give me your take on their deferrals. Is there a real shot at acceptance later, or is it primarily a courtesy. This is a first for me and I would appreciate your knowledge. </p>
<p>Thanks,
xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>While I am a Brown "mom", I can't say what percent of Brown deferrals get admitted in April, due to being a mom of a current Brown student, who by the way, applied Regular Decision, not early.</p>
<p>However, I can comment as a college counselor. No, it is NOT a polite deferral or courtesy. Some students were rejected in the Early Decision round. Some were deferred. Some who were deferred will eventually be admitted and the adcoms will wait until the entire applicant pool is available and consider them in the larger pool. What PERCENTAGE of those who were deferred in ED eventually are accepted in the RD, I can't say but you could call the school to inquire if they can give what percentage of deferrals LAST year were admitted RD. </p>
<p>That said, as I am sure you know, Brown is a highly selective school. Their overall admit rate is about 16% (ED and RD combined) but in the RD round, it is lower, perhaps as low as 8 or 9%. First of all, your student has done well to even be deferred at Brown, kind of making a "cut" of sorts. However, with elite colleges, one may be HIGHLY qualified, have what it takes to get in, and still not get in. They could fill the class a second time and have just as "good" a class. Once someone is qualified, other factors come into play....essays, recs, etc. etc. But then they also build a "class" and want all sorts of kids in that class. For any one student, that part is an element of "luck".....do they need more oboe players? more fencers? more theater kids? more newspaper editors, more mathmeticians, etc. As well, there is the element of luck as to who reads your app, as it is subjective after all. </p>
<p>A deferred student should continue to update the college, reiterate if it is their first choice, etc. </p>
<p>What I would tell ANY student who is going for elite selective colleges, is this.....you cannot count on or expect to get into ONE particular college with these odds. This actually applies to BFA candidates as well, not just Ivy League type applicants. If you have what it takes to get into these schools (and I mean REALLY have it), you cannot assume or predict or expect to get into a particular school but you can fairly assume, you will get into at least one of a handful of schools on your list. As well, a student should have a balanced and realistic list, not just elite institutions on the list, no matter how qualified. That is why I really cringe when students (not saying this about YOUR student....just in general now), pin their hopes on ONE particular school when that school has a very low rate of admission. It is natural to have favorites but important to like many schools on your list, hopefully all the ones on your list. A student CAN be happy at MORE THAN one school, I guarantee that. They need to see that too from the get go. All should NOT ride on ONE certain school. You can only attend one school also. This time next year, ALL these kids will be thriving and enjoying their colleges and if it is not the first choice school, it won't matter so much when the angst of the college admissions process is over. </p>
<p>From personal experience, I can tell you that neither of my kids got upset if they did not get into a school because they KNEW going into a very selective admissions process, the REALITIES of it and that a rejection was not a commentary on their qualifications. It is the overall picture/results after the whole process is done. If they have a realistic balanced list, they will go to college. My kids each got one full rejection from their list. In both cases, that rejection was one of their favorites but not their ONLY favorite....they had a few top choices, not just one. They did not get bent of shape over it. They knew it was a strong possibility to be rejected (stronger than to get in, lol). In the end, they got into all their other schools, and had one waitlist. The outcome was positive. They each now love the schools they are at. I hope all the kids and their parents going through the angst of these early rounds, can remember this bigger picture. It is NOT ALL about ONE school, particularly with selective admissions. </p>
<p>So, that's my scoop......and yes, a deferred student at Brown can STILL get in, but again, as is the case with RD in the Ivy League, the odds are still VERY tough. I hope your student likes many schools and has applied to many, and a variety of selectivity. </p>
<p>As you likely know, a student can get into Princeton but not Brown, Harvard but not Yale, Brown but not Tufts, Harvard but not Princeton, Princeton but not Harvard, etc. A BFA candidate (I'm relating true stories here) can get into NYU but not Emerson, UMich but not Penn State, UMich but not Syracuse, CCM but not Syracuse, CCM but not UMich, etc. That's the name of this game. ONE SINGLE admissions decision does not tell the story on one student. It is the sum in April. If the list is realistic and balanced, with some reaches, all should work out in spring. </p>
<p>Susan</p>