The Official Pakistani Thread for the Class of 2014

talaltq · March 21, 2010, 10:18am

@lily_01: Woah! Fall of 2010 means THIS year! Applications still open? lemme check their site, thanks! =D

talaltq · March 21, 2010, 10:31am

[NYU</a> Abu Dhabi - How and When to Apply](<a href=“Apply for Admission - NYU Abu Dhabi”>Apply for Admission - NYU Abu Dhabi)

Applications for Fall of 2010 are closed. THat’s why I originally thought it was starting in 2011 :(

Oh well, nevermind, they don’t even teach Finance, just Economics :/

Ecthelion · March 21, 2010, 10:38am

I am surprised that i didnot consider it for admission. It seems appealing.

Dark_Angel_1 · March 21, 2010, 11:22am

LEts bring a New Path to the thread

** NUST VS LUMS ** Which is better ???

SSE point of view

talaltq · March 21, 2010, 11:26am

I live in Saudi and NYU wasn’t even in the news here! Bad marketing :/

mushoo · March 21, 2010, 12:17pm

LUMS LUMS LUMS.

As a student with very good friends at NUST (PNEC Karachi) I can say that the crowd there is absolute crap. Although of course my friends are frustrated and exaggerate their “ordeal”, but its a very tough place for A-Level students to survive - you will need to unlearn your reasoning and analytical skills and stoop to the level of base memorisation to get by.

I have many friends at SSE too, and although they say that there are definite rooms for improvement, they are very satisfied with the student body. The teachers are well-qualified too. One friend of mine says he noticed an interesting trend that those who did their undergraduate degrees from abroad are better teachers than those with just a postgraduate education from abroad, who still have the Pakistani “ratta” touch.

Although I’m really confused about SSE’s degree recognition. Does not being recognized by HEC mean that students can’t pursue a postgraduate education?

Dark_Angel_1 · March 21, 2010, 12:58pm

btw Does lums have a international applicant quota ?

mushoo · March 21, 2010, 12:58pm

And WOW this thread has picked up momentum!

Samtjt · March 21, 2010, 1:21pm

Surely LUMS…Though NUST has a pretty cool ranking considering it is a Pak Univ but…

LUMS SSE has a very vigorous curiculum and some very good foreign qualified teachers.One of our my senior tld tht their Phy professor was a MIT PhD and Chemistry was Cambridge PHD and that their teaching assistant was a Standford graduate…
SSE is still developing…there are some problems.As rumours go by their teachers leave the university soon and their degree is not recognized by PEC yet…

However as we knowthat Government, Industries and repotedly USAID has given MONEY,gaining recogniion should not be a problem.

Samtjt · March 21, 2010, 1:34pm

And replying to mushoo comments earlier made.Personally I had experience that some special students do get a special treatment.I don’t know if it is common in other schools or not…but I do feel if u make rules thy should be for every one…

BTW Rootsian’s surely rock when it comes to University admissions…2 MIT accpetances is not a joke…but I would disagree with mushoo about…“the students make it special…”

Administration has got a role to play…It should be suportive to students rather than just busy in making money and getting grades in A levels…

Panda7 · March 21, 2010, 2:39pm

US List:

<ol>
<li>Harvard - 1 (LAS [likely])</li>
<li>Stanford - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Caltech - 1 (KGS)</li>
<li>MIT - 3 (1 LAS, 2 Roots)</li>
<li>Columbia - 2 (1 KAS [likely], 1 LAS [likely])</li>
<li>UPenn (2 Wharton) - 4 (3 LAS, 1 KGS)</li>
<li>Brown - 2 (1 LAS, 1 Headstart)</li>
<li>Yale - 1 (St. Patrick’s)</li>
<li>UChicago - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Tufts - 3 (1 LAS, 2 Roots)</li>
<li>University of Texas at Austin - 2 (1 Aitchison, 1 KAS)</li>
<li>Texas A&M University - 3 (1 KAS, 1 LAS, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>SUNY Buffalo - 1 (KAS)</li>
<li>Purdue - 4 (1 LAS, 3 Aitchison)
15. NYU - 13 (3 KAS, 7 Aitchison [4 likely letters], 3 LGS)</li>
<li>Notre Dame - 1 (Choueifat)</li>
<li>Indiana University, Bloomington - 4 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>UMich, Ann Arbor - 2 (LAS)</li>
<li>Bryant - 2 (LAS)</li>
<li>Ohio Wesleyan - 5 (3 Aitchison, 1 LGS, 1 Roots)</li>
<li>University of Tampa - 3 (LAS)</li>
<li>Rutgers - 2 (1 LAS, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Syracuse - 4 (1 Aitchison, 3 KAS)</li>
<li>University of Florida - 2 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Creighton - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Dowling - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>UMich, Flint - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Northeastern - 11 (3 LAS, 4 Aitchison, 4 KAS)</li>
<li>Florida Institute of Technology - 2 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>UIllinois, Urbana-Champaign - 4 (2 Aitchison, 1 LAS, 1 KAS)</li>
<li>Mercy College 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>DePauw - 3 (1 LGS, 2 Roots)</li>
<li>ASU - 1 (LGS)</li>
<li>UC San Diego - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>UC Irvine - 2 (1 KGS, 1 KAS)</li>
<li>University of Minnesota, Twin Cities - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Washington University in St. Louis - 2 (1 KAS, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Rhode Island - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>American University - 1 (KAS)</li>
<li>Simmons College - 2 (1 KAS, 1 LAS)</li>
<li>U Mass Amherst - 2 (1 KAS, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Regis College - 1 (KAS)</li>
<li>Cal State: Long Beach - 1 (KAS)</li>
<li>Valparaiso 3 (LAS)</li>
<li>University of Maryland, College Park 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Washington College 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Illinois Tech - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Penn State - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Babson - 3 (LAS)</li>
<li>Bentley - 2 (LAS)</li>
<li>Hobart and William Smith Colleges - 1 (Roots)</li>
<li>Colgate - 1 (Roots)</li>
<li>Drexel - 1 (Roots)</li>
<li>USC - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>UC LA - 2 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Oberlin - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
</ol>

UK List:

<ol>
<li>Oxford - 3 (2 Roots, 1 KGS)</li>
<li>Cambridge - 5 (2 KGS, 2 LGS, 1 Engro Chemical School Ghotki)</li>
<li>Imperial College, London - 7 (3 LGS, 4 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Sheffield - 3 (2 Aitchison, 1 KGS)</li>
<li>University College London - 10 (7 Aitchison, 2 LGS, 1 PISES Riyadh)</li>
<li>University of Edinburgh - 4 (4 Aitchison)</li>
<li>CASS - 3 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Exeter - 3 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Warwick - 4 (3 Aitchison, 1 TCS)</li>
<li>Cardiff - 2 (1 LAS, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Nottingham - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Regents - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>St. Andrews - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Kent - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>London School of Economics - 6(4 LGS, 1 Resource, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Southampton - 2 (1 Aitchison, 1 KGS)</li>
<li>London College of Fashion - 1 (KAS)</li>
<li>Loughborough 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>University of Manchester - 1 (PISES Riyadh)</li>
<li>University of Birmingham - 1 (PISES Riyadh)</li>
<li>University of Liverpool - 1 (PISES Riyadh)</li>
</ol>

Canadian List:

<ol>
<li>University of Toronto - 6 (1 LAS, 1 LGS, 4 Aitchison)</li>
<li>University of Waterloo - 10 (5 Aitchison, 3 LAS, 1 LGS, 1 BSS)</li>
<li>Carleton - 4 (LAS)</li>
<li>McGill - 37 (1 TCS, 16 LGS, 19 Aitchison, 1 Headstart School Islamabad)</li>
<li>University of British Columbia - 5 (1 LGS, 4 LAS)</li>
<li>York University - 5 (2 LAS, 1 Aitchison, 1 LGS, 1 PIS, Khobar)</li>
<li>Concordia University - 2 (1 LAS, 1 PIS Khobar)</li>
<li>University of New Brunswick - 1 (PIS Khobar)</li>
<li>University of Manitoba - 1 (PIS Khobar)</li>
<li>McMaster University - 2 (1 PIS Khobar, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>University of Western Ontario 4 (2 LAS, 2 LGS)</li>
<li>University of Alberta - 1 (PISES Riyadh)</li>
<li>Queen’s University - 2 (1 ISG Dammam, 1 Aitchison)</li>
</ol>

Other List:

<ol>
<li>HKUST - 2 (1 LAS, 1 Roots)</li>
<li>Curtin Institute of Technology, Australia - 1 (PIS Khobar)</li>
<li>HKU - 3 (1 LGS, 1 Roots, 1 TCS)</li>
</ol>

Panda7 · March 21, 2010, 2:50pm

Its true that LUMS SSE is not recognized yet. The rumors, I guess, are not true. It takes some time to get accreditation and I do not think LUMS will have any problem in getting one. It should not be a cause of concern.

I know some of the people who are currently enrolled in LUMS SSE program. They love it. Although there are some problems, as the program has just been started, they think they have made the right choice.

Dark_Angel_1 · March 21, 2010, 2:59pm

ITs never to late but we really have picked the momentum RACE TO 3000 :D

khan91 · March 21, 2010, 4:17pm

guys, good to see some proper discussion going on, keep it up!

i remember from a few months back some of you were interested in applying to Lafayette. I heard from the admissions office that they released the decisions, was wondering how it turned out for you.

Ecthelion · March 21, 2010, 5:20pm

Its been a massacre man as far as the Lafayette admissions is concerned. I am not at all exaggerating. Many of my friends with impressive stats and awesome ECs got rejected, together with me.

Dark_Angel_1 · March 22, 2010, 12:53am

i unfortunately ended up applying nowhere in US.

Panda7 · March 22, 2010, 1:22am

US List:

<ol>
<li>Harvard - 1 (LAS [likely])</li>
<li>Stanford - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Caltech - 1 (KGS)</li>
<li>MIT - 3 (1 LAS, 2 Roots)</li>
<li>Columbia - 2 (1 KAS [likely], 1 LAS [likely])</li>
<li>UPenn (2 Wharton) - 4 (3 LAS, 1 KGS)</li>
<li>Brown - 2 (1 LAS, 1 Headstart)</li>
<li>Yale - 1 (St. Patrick’s)</li>
<li>UChicago - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Tufts - 3 (1 LAS, 2 Roots)</li>
<li>University of Texas at Austin - 2 (1 Aitchison, 1 KAS)</li>
<li>Texas A&M University - 3 (1 KAS, 1 LAS, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>SUNY Buffalo - 1 (KAS)</li>
<li>Purdue - 4 (1 LAS, 3 Aitchison)</li>
<li>NYU - 13 (3 KAS, 7 Aitchison [4 likely letters], 3 LGS)</li>
<li>Notre Dame - 1 (Choueifat)</li>
<li>Indiana University, Bloomington - 4 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>UMich, Ann Arbor - 2 (LAS)</li>
<li>Bryant - 2 (LAS)</li>
<li>Ohio Wesleyan - 5 (3 Aitchison, 1 LGS, 1 Roots)</li>
<li>University of Tampa - 3 (LAS)</li>
<li>Rutgers - 2 (1 LAS, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Syracuse - 4 (1 Aitchison, 3 KAS)</li>
<li>University of Florida - 2 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Creighton - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Dowling - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>UMich, Flint - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Northeastern - 11 (3 LAS, 4 Aitchison, 4 KAS)</li>
<li>Florida Institute of Technology - 2 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>UIllinois, Urbana-Champaign - 4 (2 Aitchison, 1 LAS, 1 KAS)</li>
<li>Mercy College 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>DePauw - 3 (1 LGS, 2 Roots)</li>
<li>ASU - 1 (LGS)</li>
<li>UC San Diego - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>UC Irvine - 2 (1 KGS, 1 KAS)</li>
<li>University of Minnesota, Twin Cities - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Washington University in St. Louis - 2 (1 KAS, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Rhode Island - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>American University - 1 (KAS)</li>
<li>Simmons College - 2 (1 KAS, 1 LAS)</li>
<li>U Mass Amherst - 2 (1 KAS, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Regis College - 1 (KAS)</li>
<li>Cal State: Long Beach - 1 (KAS)</li>
<li>Valparaiso 3 (LAS)</li>
<li>University of Maryland, College Park 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Washington College 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Illinois Tech - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Penn State - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Babson - 3 (LAS)</li>
<li>Bentley - 2 (LAS)</li>
<li>Hobart and William Smith Colleges - 1 (Roots)</li>
<li>Colgate - 1 (Roots)</li>
<li>Drexel - 1 (Roots)</li>
<li>USC - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>UC LA - 2 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Oberlin - 1 (Aitchison)
57. University of Miami - 1 (Aitchison)
58. Wisconsin Madison - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
</ol>

UK List:

<ol>
<li>Oxford - 3 (2 Roots, 1 KGS)</li>
<li>Cambridge - 5 (2 KGS, 2 LGS, 1 Engro Chemical School Ghotki)</li>
<li>Imperial College, London - 7 (3 LGS, 4 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Sheffield - 3 (2 Aitchison, 1 KGS)</li>
<li>University College London - 10 (7 Aitchison, 2 LGS, 1 PISES Riyadh)</li>
<li>University of Edinburgh - 4 (4 Aitchison)</li>
<li>CASS - 3 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Exeter - 3 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Warwick - 4 (3 Aitchison, 1 TCS)</li>
<li>Cardiff - 2 (1 LAS, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Nottingham - 1 (Aitchison)</li>
<li>Regents - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>St. Andrews - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>Kent - 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>London School of Economics - 6(4 LGS, 1 Resource, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>Southampton - 2 (1 Aitchison, 1 KGS)</li>
<li>London College of Fashion - 1 (KAS)</li>
<li>Loughborough 1 (LAS)</li>
<li>University of Manchester - 1 (PISES Riyadh)</li>
<li>University of Birmingham - 1 (PISES Riyadh)</li>
<li>University of Liverpool - 1 (PISES Riyadh)</li>
</ol>

Canadian List:

<ol>
<li>University of Toronto - 6 (1 LAS, 1 LGS, 4 Aitchison)</li>
<li>University of Waterloo - 10 (5 Aitchison, 3 LAS, 1 LGS, 1 BSS)</li>
<li>Carleton - 4 (LAS)</li>
<li>McGill - 37 (1 TCS, 16 LGS, 19 Aitchison, 1 Headstart School Islamabad)</li>
<li>University of British Columbia - 5 (1 LGS, 4 LAS)</li>
<li>York University - 5 (2 LAS, 1 Aitchison, 1 LGS, 1 PIS, Khobar)</li>
<li>Concordia University - 2 (1 LAS, 1 PIS Khobar)</li>
<li>University of New Brunswick - 1 (PIS Khobar)</li>
<li>University of Manitoba - 1 (PIS Khobar)</li>
<li>McMaster University - 2 (1 PIS Khobar, 1 Aitchison)</li>
<li>University of Western Ontario 4 (2 LAS, 2 LGS)</li>
<li>University of Alberta - 1 (PISES Riyadh)</li>
<li>Queen’s University - 2 (1 ISG Dammam, 1 Aitchison)</li>
</ol>

Other List:

<ol>
<li>HKUST - 2 (1 LAS, 1 Roots)</li>
<li>Curtin Institute of Technology, Australia - 1 (PIS Khobar)</li>
<li>HKU - 3 (1 LGS, 1 Roots, 1 TCS)</li>
</ol>

mohammadeht · March 22, 2010, 5:44am

YEa, I have heard a lot about the “rata” system in practice in NUST, not just in the Karachi campus but in every other campus too. Can you believe that NUST has still got a uniform?
I, personally, think LUMS would be way better than NUST, although it’s not in any rankings. But lemme tell you one thing, before I graduate, i.e. 4 years from now InshAllah, LUMS will be in international rankings as well and will have probably beaten NUST!
And UET is also another uni great for science and engineering but UET=NUST in almost every aspect. My Physics teacher who studied at Punjab University said UET’s professor and staff are not all that friendly and that Punjab University is definitely better. NUST, however, has a lil’ better reputation as far as friendliness and willingness-to-help of the staff is concerned.

So, for me LUMS then NUST then UET!
But for those who have missed the LUMS application deadlines (18th January 2010) should definitely consider NUST and UET.
Oh, and COMSATS is also offering study abroad as part of its bachelor’s degree. Anyone’s got more info on that?

mohammadeht · March 22, 2010, 5:59am

I am so late now after that discussion on which system is the best is over.
Anyways, I will still post. I also applied to MIT and as most of us know I was required to send them recs and other stuff which the teachers and the school staff usually fills.
Except for the Student Counselor evaluation letter, I LITERALLY made ALL of my recs letter!!! ALL OF THEM! IT FELT SO WEIRD WHEN I WAS PRAISING MYSELF! LOL!
My teachers simply didnt have time. They told me to make my own letters and, at the end, simply get it signed!
I study in PISES Riyadh and it is the premier school for O and A levels in at least the city and this is how we roll! (By premier, I obviously mean the results and stuff, not the system and facilities available!)

Panda7 · March 22, 2010, 7:28am

800th post.

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