<p>ella89- “The Intellectual League”</p>
<p>I was accepted to Berkeley and UCLA and choose UCLA. Factor in UCLA’s sports history and it should go like this
- Stanford
- Cal Tech
- UCLA
- Berkeley
- USC
- dont care
- dont care
- dont care</p>
<p>Call it the Golden league since their all in California</p>
<p>bump…</p>
<p>Oh I loooove the Golden League!</p>
<p>LMAO @ don’t care, don’t care…</p>
<p>smcguy-should the golden league also include the eight members of the ivy league as well?</p>
<p>Bump…</p>
<p>They should be:</p>
<p>Stanford
Riverside
Cal State Long Beach
Berkeley
UCLA
University of the Pacific</p>
<p>Should be :</p>
<p>Stanford
Caltech</p>
<p>p sure Berkeley and LA dont compare to schools like Yale, Harvard, Princeton, and etc.</p>
<p>Xviral- UCLA and berkeley can be compared to with Columbia, upenn, Cornell</p>
<ol>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>Pomona</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Harvey-Mudd</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
</ol>
<p>Stanford and Caltech are pretty much tied for prestige imo. Caltech’s main defect is it’s lacking stanford’s comparable humanities, but i’d say it makes up for that with it’s top-tier researchers, patents, and small student/faculty ratios.</p>
<p>EDIT: actually, i’m placing UCSD on this list. Tag or not, it’s still a fine and respected school and there’s no doubt that if the trend continues it will be on the level as UCLA and Berkeley probably within a decade. So it’s good to round it up at #8.</p>
<p>bump…</p>
<p>this thread is dead</p>
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<p>DEFINITELY not Columbia (***? columbia’s is retardedly prestigious) and probably not UPenn. I’d say they’re comparable with the lower-tier ivies like Brown, Darthmouth, or Cornell though.</p>
<p>the golden league fits well. All of these schools are in california, so the cal-league or golden league will work well.</p>
<p>Berkeley is to Yale as UCLA is to Columbia.</p>
<p>maybe in terms of just position in terms of league. I can’t imagine anyone in there right minds who would try to compare berkeley to columbia (as much as berkeley students will try to persuade you to the contrary citing that their graduate programs are world class, the truth is that they’re not ivies, nor are they close to being one)</p>
<p>as i was saying above, UCLA and Berkeley would <em>realistically</em> be compared to brown or cornell. additionally, even in terms of position, berkeley wouldn’t be two positions above UCLA, but 1. so the better comparison would be berkeley is princeton and UCLA is Columbia (if such a comparison could be made) but it would probably be like berkeley is Darmouth and UCLA is like brown.</p>
<p>realistically speaking, Stanford is probably more like Columbia than like Harvard. (i’d say the rankings reflect this pretty well.)</p>
<p>Why is everyone hatin on USC? Why u mad folks?</p>
<p>@CmonSon I don’t think anyone is hatin on USC. The truth is UCB and UCLA are comparable to the Ivy’s, USC is not.</p>
<p>Then whats with all the doller signs? Fill me in!</p>
<p>Okay, I’m going to throw in a new criteria for the Palm League. The schools HAVE to do research. Therefore, replace Pomona with UC Davis, and Harvey-Mud with UC Irvine! BTW, these schools only have TAGs because THERE’S MORE SPACE!!!</p>
<ol>
<li>Bezerkeley</li>
<li>Stanfurd</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>UC Davis</li>
<li>UC Irvine</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>UC$ (I mean U$C)</li>
</ol>
<p>^ you’re still using your research prestige bias. If done on research citations, it would actually look like this:</p>
<ol>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>UWashington</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>Davis</li>
</ol>
<p>[High</a> Impact Universities | World University Rankings | Results for 2010](<a href=“http://www.highimpactuniversities.com/rpi.html]High”>http://www.highimpactuniversities.com/rpi.html)</p>
<p>Caltech’s a great school, but it’s SMALL so there’s only so much research it’s research students can do. Caltech has 1k grad students; Stanford, UCLA, and Cal all have like 10k. clearly, all of those institutions are able to do more research in terms of quantity than caltech. As far as quality goes, that’s tbd.</p>