<p>Exactly what foozball said. By taken off, I mean they've been accepted. No one's been rejected from the waitlist yet. Everyone who wasn't accepted yet was put on the extended waitlist. You're wrong about the quotas.</p>
<p>people have been rejected from waitlists of other colleges, Harvard for example, like me and my buddy.
and im sure about the quotas. you're naive to think that columbia of all places doesnt have minority quotas, just like they need to take enough people to fill a sports team, they need to take enough rich alumni's kids to ensure that they continue to get money, and they need to make sure they have someone who plays every instrument well enough. i know a dumbass who blew his way into harvard this year with his clarinet</p>
<p>No, no, we've already asked. No one's been rejected from the Columbia waitlist yet. Everyone who hadn't already gotten accepted just got an e-mail asking if they wished to remain on the waitlist. And I'm sure this person didn't "blow his way" into Harvard. If he got into Harvard, then he deserved to get in. Don't say such insensitive things just because you're bitter.</p>
<p>well the other 10 kids to get into harvard from our class this year had GPAs of 3.9 or higher with equally impressive SATs. his were substantially lower. he is going to harvard to play clarinet for their band. im extremely bitter about columbia but im not going to pretend that if i were a black girl or the daughter of a trustee i wouldnt havent gotten in already</p>
<p>That's not true. Plenty of African-Americans get rejected and plenty of legacies too. You don't know you would have gotten in just because of that. The way you talk, it makes it seen as though you feel you deserve an admission more than someone else. As for that other person, you didn't read their application, now did you? Maybe something about that person stood out to the admissions office. Really, all the things you've been saying are making you sound like a jerk. So just stop it already.</p>
<p>Whoa: things seem to be spiraling strangely out here.</p>
<p>To put things nicely, gmoney: We're all qualified at this point, because if we weren't equally so, we wouldn't be on the waitlist. I don't think there are any 'quotas' as much as just the fact that Columbia might be trying to replace people with characteristics of a particular type, and admitting people similar to them OR just admitting people based on various other criteria. It's their criteria, not ours, and so your being bitter (as most of us are wan to be, for you don't know HOW long we've been anxiously waiting and praying and hoping and what not, but you don't see US complaining about how we're not african american or rich, do you? If you're not certain, look for the many other waitlist threads here, and you'll know). Stop being immature. Everyone's been waiting patiently. It isn't up to us, and your complaining here doesn't help anyone, it just aggravates the situation.</p>
<p>I just want some closure at this point. And I really would like an exact date too...</p>
<p>i do know there are quotas, my dad is a professor at a crappy san francisco university and even they have undergrad quotas. (similar "characteristics" like black skin or clarinet-playing...)</p>
<p>a) Professors, unless on the admission board, have very very little to do with the inner workings of admissions.</p>
<p>b) All university admission policies are different. I'd think that the difference between Columbia and a "crappy san francisco university" would especially be flagrant.</p>
<p>c) Playing the blame game with other people because of their race or interest only serves to highlight your own shortcomings.</p>
<p>Ok enough talk about that...Anyway, I feel like they can't take much longer. They were waiting to see if people turned them down for Harvard/Stanford etc and those people only have a couple days to respond when they get off the waitlist...Therefore they should know definitively by now whether or not they have spots, so hopefully we get notified by Friday.</p>
<p>i understand you guys dont appreciate my negativity, but i like to imagine that this forum serves as an outlet for those anguished by the waitlist process
you can go on living in your bubble thinking that all college admissions are fair and good and that the reason some of us are not going to columbia is because we dont deserve to. i actually think we all deserve to go, it is unfortunate however that columbia can only take so many nyc kids with good grades and good SATs.
i bet you all play clarinet and thats why you are so cranky</p>
<p>That ridiculous sense of entitlement is probably part of why you didn't get in.</p>
<p>This is getting silly.</p>
<p>YES - people of minority races do get in with comparatively lower grades, rankings, and sat scores - that is a cold fact. Are there minorities who were rejected with good scores? Of course. But that doesn't deny the fact that it is easier for a minority to get into a top institution than it is for a caucasian.</p>
<p>YES - gmoney is articulating his words ridiculously, and his sense of entitlement is much too aggressive. He is wrong on multiple accounts - but there are pieces of valid opinion that he is trying to express.</p>
<p>I don't know about the others, but I wasn't denying that "cold fact" at all. However, as far as I can see, this isn't an affirmative action debate. It's just someone who's bitter because they didn't get into Columbia. I understand that feeling completely, considering I was initially waitlisted myself, but the way he's expressing it just screams sore loser.</p>
<p>And for the record, I was accepted from the waitlist last month, and I don't fill any minority/musical/athletic quotas whatsoever. So much for his theory that hook-less people like us "aren't really considered until mid-June."</p>
<p>@gmoney: Go back to Andover and keep your bitterness to yourself. None of us were outstanding/unique enough to get in regular; no need to blame others. C'est la vie.</p>
<p>LOL @ gmoney. Just accept that you played the game and lost. Life goes on.</p>
<p>I am a dad of a waitlisted student and I had to comment about preferential treatment of the admission process. I have been around long enough to remember and saw first hand how the privledged class did expect their admission to schools like CU as their birthright. I also remember living down the hall with first blacks in my ever to attend my private college in 1970 because of affirmative action. It was a surreal situation at the time and being white from a modest background I watched first hand how the old guard crumble and the socieity as we know it now emerge.<br>
Now as a father of a student who some see as advantages for admission to CU a legacy (his mom is alumnus, as a matter of fact went into labor during her one of her public health graduate courses final exam at the medical center campus and our son was born in babies hospital there, a NYSSMA state level voice winner, attends one of the best public schools in the state, etc..
I still feel very ambiviant about the prospect of his denial because of affirmative action and of my fond memories on how it benefiitted a whole segemnt of our society or if he gets in just because he is the son of an alumnus who almost delivered him onto the floor of the classrrom in the Hammer Libary Building.<br>
This is a lesson for all of you will learn now or later... you can't change somthing if you have no control over it, so why sweat over it. This will help to avoid anxiety and have a more peadeful life.</p>
<p>I agree with DadOfMAR, things like affirmative action and legacy does dive students boosts, but that's just the way it is. I personally have a friend who is going to Princeton next year, and to be honest, I think if he wasn't african american, he wouldn't have gotten in. I do think he is a very smart person and I am really happy for him that he got in, but it is very clear if that bubble was changed to "white" or "asian," things would be different. If you just happen to be a non-legacy or not a minority student, well to be frank, there is nothing you can do about it, so just suck it up. Plus, if you are so angry about this now, what are you going to do with it comes to grad school? jobs?</p>
<p>do you guys know when harvard/stanford kids are supposed to respond by?</p>
<p>Usually they have to respond to waitlist offers within 24 hours...</p>
<p>oh no way? that's like no time to really decide o.O</p>
<p>I guess there are basically no more spots left then sigh :(</p>