<p>good thing you're not getting defensive, kane! :)</p>
<p>Haha. I'm just defending Wash. U. against what seems to be an emotional, unfounded attack.</p>
<p>Don't forget that test scores don't make up the entire application. You have to consider all the other factors, too. And it seems to me that schools are looking less and less at standardized tests, anyway.</p>
<p>Very true JDog, but I don't know whether they will trust you an me as much because we are legacies.
I deserve to get in and have worked hard and my legacy status does not have much to do with it. I don't know what the Admissions Committee thought though.</p>
<p>It's hard to word this so it doesn't sound arrogant, but don't think that you were accepted because you're better rounded or that WashU doesn't care about test scores. My SAT's, GPA, and AP's were better than nearly all of the accepted students (everything well above the 75 percentile for WashU) plus I had great rigorous internship and work experiences, great recs, hundreds of community service hours, leadership in several activities, varsity sports all 4 years etc.</p>
<p>I'm "waitlisted".</p>
<p>WashU is definitely about getting its US News stats lined up.</p>
<p>Yield is no longer considered in US News for this exact reason.
I don't know they might have made a mistake in not letting you in. I happen to be well above the average.</p>
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Broken record, people. Regardless of whether or not US News "officially" uses it, its still prevalent in other magazines, books etc and it can be easily figured out via the raw data in the back of USNEW's book. So yea, this argument is tired and void.</p>
<p>I'm not bashing Wash U for the heck of it. In terms of the quality of education and programs, I don't think it CAN really be bashed. But there's a difference between trashing the SCHOOL and being upset with its ADMMISSIONS POLICIES. Some people on both sides can't see where the line's drawn between the two. As for being waitlisted, I'm more surprised than what you'd call "bitter." I do think that the people who are saying, "I wasn't planning on going there anyway, but..." need to stop and listen to themselves, because they're basically reinforcing Wash U's alleged mentality. </p>
<p>However, look at it from our perspective. We have 1400+ SATs, 700+ SAT II's, 3.7+ GPAs, leadership, work experience, community service, etc. We get waitlisted. Then we come on here and see that there are some people with lesser numbers and, yes, in SOME cases lesser ECs than us who are accepted. What are we supposed to think? And yeah, it's easier for you to say "stats aren't everything, get over it." But from where we're standing, it's the Twilight Zone. For crying out loud, some guy on another thread was RECRUITED for soccer and then waitlisted. </p>
<p>Wash U's a good school and I would have been thrilled to go there. But you have to admit, in SOME cases (I think I have very respectable numbers, but there are people superior to me that were waitlisted as well), it appears that there's something rotten in Denmark.</p>
<p>i think the ivies and the top schools have a secret collusion going on, making deals on what SAT ranges they each would take...lol</p>
<p>Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Wouldn't surprise me AT ALL if they were behind the scenes going, "Yale, you take him, and we'll get her. Wash U, you can waitlist this one, we'll take him. Reject him, and we'll accept that one."</p>
<p>Seriously, I can just see it...I'm paranoid.</p>
<p>As a heads-up, the Ivy League schools were described as one of the top five most successful oligopolies in this article I had to read for AP Economics class. :-)</p>
<p>Why don't you all just shut up and go look in the mirror at how great you all are...........for god's sake get a life!</p>
<p>Bailey, nice work for a first post on CC. Welcome</p>
<p>hear hear. welcome bailey</p>
<p>i dont get it...</p>
<p>"for god's sake get a life!"</p>
<p>:)same to you.:)</p>
<p>The admissions policies that the school employs is very upsetting to me. I, for one, liked WUStL a lot and decided to apply based on their wonderful liberal arts programs. I did not apply to this school as a safety at all. In addition, many public schools, including mine, have a limit as to how many schools to which we can apply. If I wasn't naive like the other 10,000+ waitlisted applicants, then I would not have "wasted" a school's spot on WUStL. I know many other waitlisted students feel like they have been "strung" along in order to fulfill the institution's needs (which I wholeheartedly understand, because WUStL, at its essence, is a business) rather than serving the students' needs in terms of admission. </p>
<p>A personal anecdote: Yesterday, I had a substitute teacher for my AP Spanish class. He mentioned how there were three students waitlisted from WUStL from our school during a chat with us (You know how several substitute teachers are). If a subtitute teacher knew that kind of information, God knows how shocked our college office was and how "jipped" they felt.</p>
<p>Honestly, if by some act of God or the cosmic forces align in my favor and WUStL accepts me, I don't know if I would feel all "gung-ho" about going.</p>
<p>What really surprises me about all of this is that WashU did the exact thing last year! It is all on CC. If all of you are so smart why didn't you see this coming. This is not new to WashU and it is also done at other schools.....
So I say move on with your bruised egos and stop complaining.</p>
<p>How do we have bruised egos? I am not bashing anyone who was accepted; in fact, my best friend was accepted to WUStL and I was perfectly fine with it, and I do know that admissions works as such that they try to admit the best possible students that they believe is a match for the school. However, with 10,000+ waitlisted, evidence of the "Tufts Syndrome," it is pretty obvious that there is some other factor than ECs, test scores, "showing interest," essays, recs, and transcripts that is considered in the admissions office. It's a fact, and I certainly am not complaining because of a "bruised ego."</p>
<p>no bruised ego here, either. i was not expecting to be accepted anyway.</p>
<p>but, were there really 10000+ waitlistees? thats nearly half of the applicant pool!</p>
<p>Yes, my college counselor called the school after all of our students that applied to WUStL were waitlisted, and they said they waitlisted 10,000+.</p>