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<p>W&M </p>

<p>UVirginia
UCalifornia
UMichigan
UNorth Carolina
UCLA
GA Tech
Texas</p>

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<p>Gellino, Geneseo’s mean SAT score is not quite as high as you claim. the mid 50% SAT range is 1230-1380 (mean of 1305). </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.geneseo.edu/isu/cms_pdf/iresearch/CDS_2008Geneseo.pdf[/url]”>http://www.geneseo.edu/isu/cms_pdf/iresearch/CDS_2008Geneseo.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And I am not sure it is wise to rate universities according to SAT averages. </p>

<p>In terms of the top 10 state schools, I would say they are:</p>

<p>Cal</p>

<p>Michigan
Virginia</p>

<p>UCLA</p>

<p>North Carolina
Wisconsin</p>

<p>Texas
UIUC</p>

<p>Georgia Tech
UCSD</p>

<p>NB: William and Mary is hard to rate because it is so different from the other top rated public universities.</p>

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<p>The list seems pretty obvious to me. </p>

<p>1) College of William & Mary
2) University of California-Berkeley
3) University of California-Los Angeles
4) University of California-San Diego
5) University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
6) University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
7) University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
8) University of Texas-Austin
9) University of Washington
10) University of Wisconsin-Madison
11) University of Virginia</p>

<p>The list has 11 because W&M is the odd one out. The University of Minnesota gets an honorable mention. Georgia Tech was intentionally excluded due to its specialized nature.</p>

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<p>I’m not claiming anything. The numbers are straight from princetonreview. </p>

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<p>What is obvious about the UWashington being considered better than UMaryland or UFlorida?</p>

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<p>or Wisconsin and Virginia for that matter…</p>

<p>And to answer rjkofnovi: Architecture, although I’m not sure I’m still going to go into that.</p>

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<p>It looks like his list is alphabetical, so he’s not saying UWashington is better than UWisconsin or UVA, but he is saying it’s obvious that UWashington is better than UMaryland or UFlorida.</p>

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<p>UWashington has a far more decorated faculty with 77 NAS members. UMD and UF don’t have half that number. Same for winning competitive research funding where UW is in the Top 5 and the others are well down the list. Wisconsin is right with Washington on those measures and both leave UVa in the dust.</p>

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<p>GENESEO IS SO UNDERRATED!!!</p>

<p>In no order:
Berkeley
UCLA
Michigan
Virginia
SUNY Geneseo
North Carolina
Texas
UC Irvine
Washington
UC San Diego</p>

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<p>The faculty, maybe, has more awards, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything for the UG students and the average student at UWashington wouldn’t even be in the bottom 25% of UVA.</p>

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<p>I can’t help if people are dumb enough to choose what is really a second tier school because it has nice weather and a cool campus. If you don’t consider faculty quality and resources a major factor in selecting a school you are just picking a nice resort. Even UVa knows it comes up way short-especially in sciences and engineering.</p>

<p><a href=“http://media.gatewayva.com/cdp/pdf/WAG_Report.pdf[/url]”>http://media.gatewayva.com/cdp/pdf/WAG_Report.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I don’t see what the point of attaching that report is. Every school is looking to improve but it still doesn’t change the fact the students, on average, are smarter at UVA. Do you really think the system is that inefficent that the smarter students are consistently choosing the worse school?</p>

<p>What you are saying is maybe somewhat relevant in the sciences but such a high percentage change majors that choosing schools based on faculty seems misguided to me.</p>

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<p>“Do you really think the system is that inefficent that the smarter students are consistently choosing the worse school?”</p>

<p>Yes, quite obviously. Now I also believe that smart kids will do pretty much fine no matter where they go to school and studies have pretty much proven this. So maybe it’s perfectly rational to choose the best country-club school. UVa is not known for producing top scientists or engineers anyway. Maybe now we know why.</p>

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<p>1)Berkeley
1)Michigan
3)UVA
4)North Carolina
4)UCLA
6)William & Mary
7)Wisconsin-Madison
7)Georgia Tech
9)Florida
9)Texas</p>

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<p>no love for UIUC?</p>

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<p>UIUC is not a great school. I have many friends who go there, have visited and have been admitted. It ranks among average flagship universities, certainly below Wisconsin, Texas, Georgia, and Florida. Probably at the same level as Ohio State. </p>

<p>The only exception is engineering.</p>

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<p>[ol]
[<em>]Cornell
[</em>]University of Virginia
[<em>]University of California, Berkley
[</em>]University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
[<em>]University of Michigan
[</em>]College of William and Mary
[<em>]University of California, Los Angeles
[</em>]University of Wisconsin, Madison
[<em>]University of Texas
[</em>]Georgia Tech</p>

<p>[/ol]</p>

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<p>I just posted a question asking which is better, University of Florida or Penn State University Park, so judging by most of the lists here I guess the consensus is that PSU is better?</p>

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<p>A lot of people would disagree with that and at the very least, it’s not obvious. </p>

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<p>What about for the 75%+ of students who don’t major in the sciences?</p>

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<p>I think people cite STEM fields more because it’s extremely easy to show superiority through superior research. What makes a superior humanities department I just do not know. Things like research funding or job placement don’t seem to be great figures of merit for areas like English or Philosophy.</p>

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<p>Am I messing something about Cornell? I know it’s a land grant school, but it’s still private.</p>