<p>I have to agree with rjkofnovi. And, I’ll add that there are just tooooooo many Asians at Cal and it is for me a clear disproportion of Cal’s student body based on racial diversity. Overall, however, I’d rank Berkeley the number one State University in America, Michigan number two, UVa number three and UCLA number four. Then you’ll have UT-Austin, UIUC, Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Maryland, UCSD, Penn State, W&M and so on. All of which are excellent and globally prestigious universities.</p>
<p>Question 1: Why Universities in NJ, NY, and PA are not developed?</p>
<p>Answer: I can talk to you about Rutgers University (NJ). It has tremendous programs and many nationally ranked departments.</p>
<p>Many Rutgers departments are nationally and internationally recognized for important scholarly contributions and the quality of education received by students at undergraduate and graduate levels. Eleven of Rutgers’ graduate departments are ranked by the National Research Council in the top 25 among all universities: Philosophy (2nd), Geography (13th), Statistics (17th), English (17th), Mathematics (19th), Art History (20th), Physics (20th), History (20th) Comparative Literature (22nd), French (22nd), and Materials Science Engineering (25th).]The Rutgers Business School is ranked 39th in the Wall Street Journal’s Regional Ranking of Top Business Schools. The Philosophy Department ranked first in 2002–04 tied with New York University and Princeton University, and second in 2004–06 (NYU was first, Princeton 3rd, Oxford 4th) in the Philosophical Gourmet’s biennial report on Philosophy programs in the English-speaking world. According to U.S. News & World Report, in the top 25 among all universities: Library Science (6th), Drama/Theater (12th), Mathematics (16th), English (18th), History (19th, with the subspecialty of African-American History ranked 4th and Women’s History ranked 1st), Applied Mathematics (21st) and Physics (24th). Also in the 2006 U.S. News & World Report ranking of Computer Science Ph.D. programs, Rutgers was ranked 29th. Rutgers pharmacy, according to USNWR is (23rd) in the country and consistently ranks in top 8 for most NIH grants. </p>
<p>Rutgers was awarded a record $391 million in new research grants and contracts in FY 2009
To date, Rutgers has received $22.4 million in American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funding to support a range of research, from preventing colon cancer to better understanding sediment in coastal estuaries
60 percent of Rutgers undergraduates engage in original research
In 2008, Rutgers placed among the top 10 universities in the nation for the licensing and optioning of inventions
Rutgers has nearly 400 active U.S. patents and was granted 36 patents in 2008 alone</p>
<p>Rutgers ranks 6th in the nation for value delivered to graduates based on median salaries three years and 15 years after graduation in SmartMoney’s survey of college costs versus salaries earned by alumni of 50 public and private institutions.</p>
<p>Rutgers is diverse. The students of Rutgers–Newark have made that campus the nation’s “most diverse” for 13 years running in U.S. News & World Report’s ranking of America’s Best Colleges</p>
<p>Only problem with Rutgers when compared to other so called “top” brass is effective marketing. However, that doesn’t mean it has less state of the art and strong programs compared to other universities.</p>
<p>That’s a good question, Marsden…I don’t know the answer, but look at South Carolina today…it’s still trying to fight the civil war it lost…it’s been a retrograde and renegade state since 1790 at least.</p>
<p>Marsden,</p>
<p>re: your post about SAT scores, there are a few things good to keep in mind with regard to the SAT scores at public universities –</p>
<p>1) Both the University of Michigan, and the University of California system, have at various times published their selection criteria for freshmen. These criteria are heavily weighted to realized classroom performance, with relatively little weight place on standardized test scores. In fact, I read until a slight change in 2002, UMich’s formula would have accepted a 3.7 gap with 1000 SAT, over a 3.5 with 1600.</p>
<p>2) the UC system only reports Single Sitting SAT scores… I do not know how Michigan, UNC, UVA, UI, UW, W&M select the scores for the Common Data Set, or whatever their method of reporting is. The correction factor for Single Sitting vs. Superscoring is, I think, about 25 points per test section.</p>
<p>3) Given the State’s mandate to serve the best and brightest, which includes a very large number of Pell Grant recipients and others on tight budgets, it follows that these economically disadvantaged students whom the University is charged to serve are much less likely to have had access to SAT Review courses, and certainly never had access to private SAT tutors/coaches…</p>
<p>collegebiomed, I would certainly agree that Rutgers has many strong programs across the disciplines. It’s a colonial college, too. The only answer I’ve ever been able to come up with as to why it lacks prestige is that Northeastern states are too enamoured with their many high quality private college and universities. Also, back when I was in school, I seem to remember that NJ used to allow its students who received state grants to use the money outside the state—many of the best and brightest left to go to college elsewhere—not sure if the state still offers those grants.</p>
<p>Michigan also doesn’t superscore. I will also note that Michigan has top Music, Theater, Dance, and Art and Design schools that take hundreds of students who need to be qualified in many ways more than high SAT/ACT scores.</p>
<p>rjk, you have been asked to provide the departments of Michigan that are rated higher than UC Berkeley’s</p>
<p>you have yet to do this</p>
<p>certainly, a University which you would label as the “Best All Around University” would have a lot more departments and areas rated higher than UC Berkeley.</p>
<p>so please provide the data,</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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<p>Here’s a comprehensive list of Rutger’s program rankings (Source: Rutger’s official website).</p>
<p>The Wall Street Journal’s SmartMoney magazine, January 2009</p>
<h1>6 in the nation for the value delivered to the university’s graduates based on college costs versus median salaries three years and 15 years after graduation</h1>
<p>U.S. News & World Report: Best Graduate Schools</p>
<h1>1 in the nation, School Library Services/Media; Women’s History</h1>
<h1>4 in the nation, Discrete Mathematics and Combinatorics; Library Services for Children and Youth; African-American History; Diversity of Law School–Newark</h1>
<h1>5 in the nation, Gender and Literature</h1>
<h1>6 in the nation, Library and Information Services; Printmaking</h1>
<h1>7 in the nation, Criminology</h1>
<h1>8 in the nation, Digital Librarianship</h1>
<h1>9 in the nation, Public Affairs Information and Technology Management; Library Information Systems; Cultural History; Logic</h1>
<h1>10 in the nation, Public Management Administration</h1>
<p>U.S. News & World Report: America’s Best Colleges</p>
<h1>1 in the nation (13th consecutive year), Most Diverse National University (Rutgers–Newark)</h1>
<p>Shanghai Jiao Tong University, China, Academic Ranking of World Universities
# 55 in the world</p>
<p>Philosophical Gourmet Report: Graduate Programs in Philosophy</p>
<h1>1 in the English-speaking world, Philosophy of Language</h1>
<h1>1 in the English-speaking world, Philosophy of the Mind</h1>
<h1>1 in the English-speaking world, Philosophy of Cognitive Science</h1>
<h1>1 in the English-speaking world, Epistemology</h1>
<h1>2 in the English-speaking world (tied with Oxford), Philosophy Faculty</h1>
<p>Planetizen: Guide to Graduate Urban Planning Programs</p>
<h1>4 in the nation, Rutgers’ Edward J. Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy</h1>
<p>Wall Street Journal</p>
<h1>8 in the nation, Executive MBA, Rutgers Business School–Newark and New Brunswick, Return on Investment</h1>
<h1>20 in the world, Executive MBA, Rutgers Business School–Newark and New Brunswick, World’s Best EMBA Programs</h1>
<p>London Financial Times</p>
<h1>2 in the world, Executive MBA, Rutgers Business School–Newark and New Brunswick, Career Progress</h1>
<h1>3 in the world, Executive MBA, Rutgers Business School–Newark and New Brunswick, Programs Offered at Public Universities</h1>
<p>NCAA
# 3 in the nation in Academic Progress Rate for athletes</p>
<p>Saviors of Our Cities: A Survey of Best College and University Civic Partnerships
#23 in the nation, Best Neighbor Schools (Rutgers–Newark)
Diversity Inc.: Top Colleges and Universities
Among the top five colleges and universities in the nation for diversity management</p>
<p>Academic Analytics Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index
Broad Categories</p>
<h1>2 in the nation, Agricultural Sciences</h1>
<h1>5 in the nation, Education</h1>
<h1>10 in the nation, Humanities</h1>
<h1>11 in the nation, Family, Consumer, and Human Sciences</h1>
<h1>19 in the nation, Natural Resources and Conservation</h1>
<h1>23 in the nation, Business</h1>
<p>Individual Disciplines</p>
<h1>2 in the nation, Food Science; Mathematics Education Concentration</h1>
<h1>3 in the nation, Italian Language and Literature; Women’s and Gender Studies</h1>
<h1>4 in the nation, Ceramic and Material Science and Engineering</h1>
<h1>5 in the nation, Atmospheric Science; Global Affairs (Rutgers–Newark)</h1>
<h1>6 in the nation, Environmental Sciences; Physical Sciences (Oceanography)</h1>
<h1>7 in the nation, Evolutionary Anthropology; Marine Sciences (Oceanography); Planning and Public Policy</h1>
<h1>8 in the nation, Pharmaceutical Sciences</h1>
<h1>9 in the nation, Cultural Anthropology; Education Policy Concentration; Operations Research; Social Work</h1>
<h1>10 in the nation, Animal Sciences; Communication, Information, and Library Studies; Computational Biology and Molecular Biophysics; Literatures in English; Philosophy</h1>
<p>Despite it’s high rankings across a number of disciplines, Rutgers is not perceived as very pretigious. An interesting question in itself as to why not?</p>
<p>what about SUNY Binghamton?</p>
<p>zapfine, it is because they do not know how to market themselves. For instance, people here are rating Berkeley and Michigan high due to their ratings on USNWR. 25% of the ranking constitutes of school’s popularity (which is next called as its “prestige”). Once, Rutger’s makes its program more well-known throughout the nation, attracting more students (increasing the selectivity), it will climb up the “prestige” ladder in no time.</p>
<p>rjk, wow, so now you are saying that because Michigan separates its departments into schools or colleges, such as the Music Department in this case, that it is a higher ranked well rounded university than UC Berkeley?</p>
<p>In this case, Michigan has the “School of Music, Theatre & Dance”, yet UC Berkeley has its Music Department within the “College of Letters and Science”.</p>
<p>Care to guess which of the two schools has a much much much higher ranked Music Department?</p>
<p>Again, you were asked to provide the departments of Michigan that were higher ranked than those of UC Berkeley in order to prove your statement that Michigan is the highest ranked well rounded University.</p>
<p>please do so…</p>
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<p>The Center for Measuring University Performance, an academic think tank currently based at Arizona State, annually releases a report comparing the overall qualities of the top universities, both public and private. (see it [here](<a href=“http://mup.asu.edu/]here[/url]”>http://mup.asu.edu/)</a>). It is highly regarded in academia for its data-driven comparison of various research university measures.</p>
<p>From its 2009 Report (just released today), here is the top cluster of 7 public U.S. universities (listed alphabetically). This means each of these schools scored among the top 25 of all public universities in each of nine categories evaluated by the study:</p>
<p>University of California - Berkley
University of California - Los Angeles
University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of Pittsburgh - Pittsburgh
University of Wisconsin - Madison</p>
<p>ireland13, SUNY Binghamton suffers from the same problem as all the state unis in NY: NY State, despite its population, wealth (probably, former wealth now), etc. never developed a state university system that even remotely approached UCal, Michigan, Wisconsin, et al. in prestige.</p>
<p>JohnAdams12. What are you thick? I never said Michigan was a better school than Berkeley. I simply stated that the school was the best well rounded public university. It offers almost everything Berkley does, but also has medicine, dentistry, pharmacy, nursing, music, theater, dance, and kinesiology. All of these additional schools are also highly rated. It is more well rounded. If you disagree with that, then you are simply being argumenative.</p>
<p>Colleges and Schools at Rutgers:</p>
<p>SCHOOL OF ARTS AND SCIENCES
SCHOOL OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES
EDWARD J. BLOUSTEIN SCHOOL OF PLANNING AND PUBLIC POLICY
ERNEST MARIO SCHOOL OF PHARMACY
MASON GROSS SCHOOL OF THE ARTS
RUTGERS BUSINESS SCHOOL–NEWARK AND NEW BRUNSWICK
SCHOOL OF COMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION
SCHOOL OF ENGINEERING
SCHOOL OF MANAGEMENT AND LABOR RELATIONS
SCHOOL OF SOCIAL WORK
COLLEGE OF NURSING
GRADUATE SCHOOL–NEW BRUNSWICK
GRADUATE SCHOOL OF APPLIED AND PROFESSIONAL PSYCHOLOGY
GRADUATE SCHOOL OF EDUCATION
SCHOOL OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SCHOOL OF LAW–NEWARK
SCHOOL OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND ADMINISTRATION
UNIVERSITY OF MEDICINE AND DENTISTRY OF NEW JERSEY(UMDNJ)</p>
<p>It has more vast departments and programs than both Michigan and Berkeley. Both Berkeley and Michigan (or even any other public university) cannot beat Rutgers in terms of top notch breath of education.</p>
<p>No one want to put the number 1 Jschool in there? University of Missouri?</p>
<p>Fine. Berkeley has a music dept. I doubt it is ranked “much much much higher.” You like to talk in superlatives. Still Cal has no medical school. It has no dental school. It has no pharmacy school. It has no nursing school. It is not as well rounded as Michigan.</p>
<p>collegebiomed, Michigan’s and Wisconsin’s prestige existed long before there was a magazine called USNWR. Those two universities have been prestigious on the East coast for many years and attacted many Northeasterners. On the other hand, many Easterners still consider the other great Midwestern universities essentially to exist in flyover country, more or less.</p>
<p>collegebiomed, I believe Michigan has the same number of schools (18) as Rutgers based on your list.</p>
<p>If you add College of Literature, Sciences, and the Arts (LSA), Michigan has a total of 19 schools.</p>
<ol>
<li>School of Medicine</li>
<li>College of Engineering </li>
<li>School of Law </li>
<li>School of Dentistry </li>
<li>School of Pharmacy </li>
<li>School of Music, Theatre & Dance </li>
<li>School of Nursing </li>
<li>A. Alfred Taubman College of Architecture & Urban Planning </li>
<li>College of Literature, Science, and the Arts</li>
<li>Horace H. Rackham School of Graduate Studies </li>
<li>Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy </li>
<li>School of Education </li>
<li>Stephen M. Ross School of Business </li>
<li>School of Natural Resources & Environment </li>
<li>School of Public Health </li>
<li>School of Social Work </li>
<li>School of Information </li>
<li>School of Art & Design </li>
<li>School of Kinesiology</li>
</ol>