TOUGHY: UCI vs UCSC

<p>I wanna major in business…minor in accounting, but UCI only has economics with a minor in accting. UCSC has business economics. I leave in the greater LA area, but Irvine is like 40 miles away. I don’t wanna live too close to home and i know Irvine is a commuter school. We all know UCI is better academic wise but i don’t really care. and i have family neaar santa cruz … help me decide</p>

<p>im gonna visit both campuses later this month</p>

<p>Visit and then decide.</p>

<p>If you're coming from the LA area, I think UCSC will be a huge shock for you. There are trees everywhere. If you love nature, then that will help adjusting to UCSC. If you're a big city person, then you might not like it.</p>

<p>well i used to live in norcal and i live in a suburb of LA so its not really the "big city" but i guess ill have to see after the visit :)</p>

<p>Ok, I think I can tell you some great things about UCSC, especially if you are set on accounting.</p>

<p>This is my second year here and like some of the other posters have mentioned, your initial experience will be a bit of a shock. I too was from Los Angeles and it took me about a quarter to adjust. After that, I have had a great experience here, especially with the business economics major.</p>

<p>For all intents and purposes, accounting is the way to go. The big four, as well as GT and some other smaller local firms all recruit heavily from the school and as long as you have excellent grades you will have many opportunities to intern. Furthermore, Bob Shepherd, who runs the accounting program, is just a great person and teacher. In a matter of 5-7 years, he has built accounting from an obscure major into one of the most popular programs on campus. Over fifty students, including myself, will be interning with big four firms this summer.</p>

<p>If you have any specific questions feel free to contact me.</p>

<p>For all the talk of UCR's bad rep, from everyone I've talked to UCSC's is just as bad--unless you're a hippy and love pot. I have a cousin who goes there, the whole thing is a joke.</p>

<p>I say UCI.</p>

<p>^^I don't even go to SC but that's just ****ed up to say..</p>

<p>If you want to be an accountant pick UCSC. It shouldn't be a hard decision. What's the point of getting an Econ degree if your only choice is to go to grad school after you graduate? While it's true that you can get a job with an econ degree, who's willing to pay you $50k entry level salary??? Definitely pick UCSC!</p>

<p>Its not just an econ degree, its econ with an emphasis in accounting, which is just a notch below a full fledged accounting degree.</p>

<p>I know. I've met students interning for the Big 4 accounting firms that are from UCSC.</p>

<p>what are the "big 4 accounting firms"?</p>

<p>ernst & young, deloitte, KPMG, pricewaterhouse cooper</p>

<p>The truth is the Big Four don't care what you major or minor in, as long as you get the coursework to fulfill their needs. Having an econ major with a minor in accounting provides you with enough accounting coursework to fulfill what an E&Y or KPMG is looking for in a candidate.</p>

<p>The good thing about UCI is all the big four are extremely close in proximity. Ernst and Young is a few blocks from UCI, KPMG and Deloitte are a few exits off the 405 near South Coast Plaza. These companies recruit at both schools but location is also important. Do you want to be in Nor Cal or So Cal?</p>

<p>Wrong, you need to be eligible to take the CPA exam in order to get recruited. A minor only requires 20 units of accounting (about 5 classes) and that's not enough to meet the CPA accounting units requirements. Only KPMG is recruiting from UCI and very few get a job. </p>

<p>The UCLA and UCSB program are identical. The emphasis meets the CPA exam requirements. The difference between the Bus. Econ. and plain accounting is that students majoring in Bus. Econ. are required to take a lot of Economics classes..... A pain in the arse if you just really want to be an accountant.</p>

<p>Actually, the Minor in accounting is much more than 5 classes. Check it out for yourself.</p>

<p><a href="http://merage.uci.edu/AcademicPrograms/UndergraduateMinors/MinorAccounting.aspx%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://merage.uci.edu/AcademicPrograms/UndergraduateMinors/MinorAccounting.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Two lower level intro classes and 7 upper division classes, making it a total of 9 classes.</p>

<p>In addition, one of the goal's of the minor is to fulfill the CPA requirements.</p>

<p>In establishing the Paul Merage School of Business undergraduate minor in Accounting, the faculty anticipated three types of students to be drawn to courses in accounting:</p>

<ul>
<li>Students who wish to meet the accounting course work eligibility requirements to sit for the uniform CPA examination.</li>
<li>Students preparing for careers in private accounting or in other fields that require some knowledge of accounting.</li>
<li>Students planning to pursue a graduate degree in accounting who wish early guidance and undergraduate work appropriate to this career objective.</li>
</ul>

<p>Not true that only KPMG recruits from UCI. I know of various alumni who've gotten jobs at all the big four, straight from UCI. This is probably new to you since the accounting minor was started just last year at UCI.</p>

<p>Next year, they are offering more of these classes at UCI to expand the amount of UCI students eligible to be recruited for internships.</p>

<p>my dad was a partner at deloitte in the la and orange county offices and i know for a fact they recruited out of uci. one of the lounges at uci is actually called the deloitte lounge, as deloitte had given donations to uci. for some reason my dad mentioned ucsb a lot, as i believe they recruited heavily out of there. but i know for a fact they recruited at uci as well, especially for the orange county office which is just a few miles away from the uci campus. the fact is a uci degree looks a lot better than a ucsc degree. i would choose the school that fit me as a person better. but i would still take into account uci's better academics when choosing a school. if the business/accounting minor is enough units to take the cpa exam as i believe it is, then i would choose uci.</p>