Transfer Admission Question

<p>I am currently on leave of absence from CSULB and at a CC so I can transfer to
USC or UCLA/UC Berkley as a Business Econ./ Finance (or something of that nature). </p>

<p>When I left CSULB I had a 3.1 gpa.. </p>

<p>If I have a 3.8 - 4.0 gpa at the CC, will the 3.1 at CSULB greatly reduce the probability of
me getting into USC/UCLA/Cal ?</p>

<p>I am also in the honors program at my CC (orange coast college) and UCLA accepts about
80% of the students in the honors program.</p>

<p>It’ll definitely hurt you somewhat, but how many units do you have from CSULB?</p>

<p>27 units. I was a music major. The only course I ever took that was not music was English which i got an A in</p>

<p>You’re going to have to contact the campuses you’re applying to individually and find out which of those courses transfer, because chances are a lot of them won’t. </p>

<p>Also, if you have over 20 semester units it becomes more difficult to transfer to a UC since you’re probably going to be viewed as a CSU to UC transfer rather than a CC to UC transfer. Priority goes to CC transfers.</p>

<p>I’m not sure where you are getting this “over 20 units from a CSU means you will be viewed as a CSU to UC transfer.” That is not the case. </p>

<p>To be considered a California community college (CCC) student, you must meet all 4 of these conditions:</p>

<p>Be enrolled at 1 or more CCCs for at least 2 terms, excluding summer sessions, and
Attend a CCC as the last college before being admitted to UC San Diego, and
Complete at least 30 semester UC-transferable units (45 quarter units), and
Be in good standing during your last regular term.</p>

<p>PS. Hi cici19</p>

<p>I also checked on the UC website and it does not say anything about the 20 units.</p>

<p>PS Hi UChopeful1234</p>

<p>That is the case with UC to UC transfers and the last admissions counselor I spoke with said it applies to CSU students as well. </p>

<p>I went over this with multiple counselors last year from UCSD and got the same answer every time: If you attend a UC and gain more than 30 quarter units in your time there, you will be viewed as a UC-to-UC student upon your transfer from a CC. However, if you’re a former UC student who gained less than 30 units, you can still reestablish yourself as a CC student and transfer as a CC student. </p>

<p>My situation was somewhat unique, but I had to know for sure because I got accepted to UCI but didn’t really want to go (long story, got denied to UCSD because of a screw up in the classes I took.) After meeting with multiple counselors, I was told I could attend UCI for a quarter, drop out, take a class (1 unit, doesn’t even have to be UC transferable) at a CC in the spring and reestablish myself as a CC transfer. </p>

<p>However, if I had more than 30 UC units on my record, I was SOL.</p>

<p>The last counselor I spoke with said this applies to CSUs and UCs.</p>

<p>Are you talking about trying to transfer for sophomore status? </p>

<p>I’m talking about restarting school for 2 years at a CC and do 64 units (or whatever the total amount you need) for Junior Status.</p>

<p>And if that was true. What GPA do you think I would need to transfer to UCSB?</p>

<p>No, as a Junior. </p>

<p>You can’t really “restart.” I can’t guarantee you that’s 100% true with former CSUs since I only heard that from one UCSD admissions counselor, but I know it’s the case with former UCs.</p>

<p>I will look into this at UCLA. I have not heard anything about this, especially with CSU to CCC to UC transfers. And the way they calculate units at UCLA doesn’t really add up with this information.</p>

<p>Since you did not withdraw from CSULB but instead took a leave of absence from the school, you are still officially enrolled at CSULB so you are actually a CSU student who is just taking some courses at a CCC. USC will not care since it is a private university but if you try to apply to UCB or UCLA they are going to consider you a CSU to UC transfer applicant, not a CCC to UC applicant.</p>

<p>Lemaitre1 are you sure about this? I just ask because I’m not sure this is the case and was wondering your source.</p>

<p>It may be possible to simply not report your CSU grades…I’ve have 2.0 range GPA’s at other schools (out of state) and did not report them once I became a CCC student…now I’m transferring to Cal and no one knows that I dropped out years ago. Only my 4.0 from community college remains. It might be more difficult since your record is part of the in-state system…</p>

<p>Essentially anyone can take as many courses at a CCC as they want without having to go through any kind of an admissions process. What makes someone a CCC student is that it is the only place they are taking courses and they are not enrolled at any four year college or university. To take courses full time at a CSU you have to apply for admission and be accepted. If you are accepted and enroll you are a CSU student until you either graduate, voluntarily withdraw or are involuntarily dismissed from the university. Since none of these things pertain to the OP she is still enrolled at CSULB and since she is still a CSU student she can not claim to be a CCC to UC transfer.</p>

<p>A CSU student who wants to transfer to a UC basically has two options. They can try to transfer directly from the CSU to the UC but this is nearly always an exercise in futility since the UCs give CSU transfer applicants the absolute lowest level of priority. The other course is to permanently withdraw from the CSU and start taking classes at a CCC with the intention of transferring to a UC once the student has earned enough credits in UC prerequisite courses at a CCC to be eligible to transfer. This strategy obviously entails some risk. It means giving up a position in a university that can award you a bachelor’s degree in a wide variety of subjects and even a masters degree in a few areas and going to a college that can not offer any degree higher than an AA which is far less valuable than a BA or BS. There is no guarantee that things will work out for you at the CCC and you will be able to transfer to a UC and there is not even any certainty that you can get back into a CSU or other four year college or university.</p>

<p>The OP is attempting to eliminate this risk but until she permanently and officially withdraws from CSULB, in the eyes of the UCs, she is enrolled at a CSU and will be considered a CSU to UC transfer applicant.</p>

<p>I in high school right now</p>

<p>@ Kitsuhiko</p>

<p>Cal will check the following site:</p>

<p>National Student Clearinghouse: Degree verification & enrollment verification </p>

<p>When they find out about your failure to submit transcripts from your prior schools they will reject your application. If you are already admitted they will expel you, and even if you graduate from Cal you will have to live the rest of your life knowing that when they find out that you were admitted under false pretenses they will rescind your degree.</p>