<p>Next year I plan to attempt to transfer to ND (Entering as a Sophomore). I was wondering if SAT/ACT scores are considered in the process. My reason for asking is because if it is considered I will take the Jun test.</p>
<p>Go to <a href="http://www.nd.edu/%7Emnadorff/transfer%5B/url%5D">www.nd.edu/~mnadorff/transfer</a> and all of your questions will be answered (shameless self-promotion).</p>
<p>Anyways, don't take the test, it really isn't considered because all the SAT does is predict how you will do in college and your college GPA is a much better predictor, obviously, so that is what they look at. Good luck!</p>
<p>He's doing freshman transfers, so SAT scores are still very important. Don't waste too much time studying for the SATs, but if you could increase it, there's no reason not to take it again.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>What? I disagree quite strongly knowing Notre Dame and knowing that I transferred in after my frosh year. McDonald, where do you get that they are still very important?</p>
<p>Notre Dame may look at them but I don't think they are very important, I have a friend here that got an 18 on his ACT and is here after one year of college. Perhaps that is true at other Universities, I think it is at some, but ND handles transfers differently than pretty much any school out there. I looked through your posts and I know you handle transfer posts for Northeastern (it looks like) but ND is a whole different animal. Check out my website or ask me and I will tell you about it.</p>
<p>ND really cares about two things, college GPA and if you take the proper classes.</p>
<p>Ask your guidance counseler, or in your case the Notre Dame asmissions counseler. Freshman transfers are based MAINLY on the high school GPA and SAT scores, because students have only studied 1 semester in college. A good college GPA will certainly boost your chances of acceptance, but high school GPA and SAT scores are still the most important thing on your transcript. On the other hand, Sophomore transfers are mainly based on college GPA and college extra curricular activities.</p>
<p>This question was addressed in a college fare at my high school by the Columbia admissions officer, and later confirmed by a Yale admissions officer. I'm sure Notre Dame, being a top 20 school, would have the same principles in admissions.</p>
<p>I believe you are mistaken from my experience of talking to admissions counselors for a solid year before transferring to Notre Dame and then talking with over 50 transfers while I have been here (I am interested in admissions for some reason). If you have a decent SAT, you don't need to retake it...only if it is really low here.</p>
<p>Please don't come and lecture me on Notre Dame admissions using info from Columbia, I assure you Notre Dame is very different. I appreciate you trying to help but if you are interested check out the Notre Dame website. Is it important to match the first year of studies at Columbia? They don't have one, but that is vital for transferring to ND. ND is a completely different animal. Trust me, I have been through this. I know other schools are different because I was accepted at Boston College as a transfer as well. </p>
<p>I am sorry if I seem rude, I don't mean it, but I have a problem with you coming on here assuming I am wrong and telling me to go talk to a ND admissions counselor based on your experience with Columbia. I have been here for over a year and everyone knows that I work hard to get transfers into ND, please don't question me based on your experience with Columbia.</p>
<p>NDphish,</p>
<p>take irish68178's advice and go to his website that he posted, it will help you out a lot. he's done this so he knows what he is talking about.</p>
<p>The fact is that most schools, probably including Notre Dame, would value high school grades and SAT scores highly for freshman transfers - it's common knowledge. You cannot assume that they don't make a differance based on your ONE case.</p>
<p>For someone with a 1290 SAT score, you really didn't need to retake it because , as of two years ago, you already ranked in the top 75% of Notre Dame's students. But retaking the SATs does not hurt his applications and could ONLY HELP the applicant, so there's really no point not retaking it. A retake of the SATs is not going to make as much of a differance as earning a high college GPA in admissions, but again, IT ONLY HELPS THE APPLICANT.</p>
<p>Like I said, "Don't waste too much time studying for the SATs, but if you could increase it, there's no reason not to take it again."</p>
<p>"Freshman transfers are based MAINLY on the high school GPA and SAT scores, because students have only studied 1 semester in college."</p>
<p>This is why you are wrong. Of course a better SAT will only help. But even if it does, it won't boost his chances that much. You need a full year at a school before transferring into Notre Dame, and most what is looked at is college GPA and if the classes you took fit Notre Dame's First Year of Studies program.</p>
<p>First of all, if what you say is true, I should have retaken with a 1290 because I was 100 points under the ND average. What about my current ND roommate with a 1100, however, or my friend who got an 18 on the ACT, went to a COMMUNITY COLLEGE and currently lives in Badin Hall? </p>
<p>I am going to give up on this thread because let's be honest, people know that I have been through the process and I have been on these message boards for several years (PR before this) and they know that I am talking from my own experience as well as those who I have helped get into Notre Dame. </p>
<p>You said it yourself, you are using COLUMBIA'S information. Why are you fighting so hard on a Notre Dame board for something using Columbia's information. I know I can never convince you otherwise, because I have tried to tell you that Notre Dame is just different unsuccessfully, so I am going to let this thread go and let you have the final word. </p>
<p>I don't like fighting with posters, I am a very nice guy, but I just want the people here to get the proper info for ND. Would taking the SAT hurt, probably not, but it would IMHO be a waste of time based on what I have heard from admissions and the experience of many of my transfer friends who currently go to Notre Dame.</p>
<p>To the OP, that is my source. If this has scared you I don't think taking the SAT again will hurt but I really don't believe it is neccesary. What is your SAT score BTW (perhaps it is like my 1290 that McDonalds thinks is okay)? I just don't want you to have to take it when it won't give you a benefit and that is how I honestly feel about it.</p>
<p>"Freshman transfers are based MAINLY on the high school GPA and SAT scores, because students have only studied 1 semester in college."</p>
<p>Yea.. I exagerrated there. But I definately think the OP SHOULD retake his SATs. There is absolutely NO reason not to.</p>
<p>ND DOESN'T ACCEPT TRANSFERS WHO HAVE ONLY HAD ONE SEMESTER OF COLLEGE.</p>
<p>It is just a point that is important to make. I didn't see that you mentioned this in an earlier post but just for future transfers who see it, you have to complete your freshman year before you can apply to ND.</p>
<p>If it was only after a semester you were trying to transfer then I think that McDonald would have a very valid point but after a full year of college it isn't as important at any college. They still look at it but I have NEVER seen a low SAT keep anyone out of ND. Then again, if it is really low, it is your call. You can get in touch with me if you have questions and we can talk. If you have a 1200 or something like that, don't retake!</p>
<p>Thanks for the input, I've decided not to take the test again. I think 1430 will be high enough for transfer purposes. I know I could get 1500+ but its not worth the time/money/stress if it is not a major factor of transfer admissions. However, I hope a 3.8-4.0 for the first 2 semesters of college will outweigh my poor 3.4 HS GPA.</p>
<p>If it helps at all, all of my stats are on my website but I had a 3.5 GPA in high school (didn't try hard enough) and a 1290 and I transferred in after my freshman year. It can be done my friend. If you have the right classes, I think you are in fantastic shape.</p>