<p>well, Im glad to see we are all mature people here</p>
<p>Bump thread. quit reviving an old thread. is that too hard to understand?</p>
<p>I’m just intrigued why it bothers you so much…I’ve just read your other posts…you’re quite a bully aren’t you, grind?</p>
<p>bump bump bump</p>
<p>lol, you like that word a lot huh? what are you 17, 18? seriously, why does this bug you so much, does a pop up come up as soon as i reply or something?</p>
<p>ur a clown cuz</p>
<p>Ill take that as a compliment. I know youre trying to bring me down :(…you must be a sad person</p>
<p>I’m going to go for it. I’ve thought a lot about it and I’m going to attempt not to send all my transcripts. At my current community college I have a 3.6 with 36 credits completed. At my previous community college I have 1 B, 4 D’s, 2 F’s, and 12 W’s. This would bring my GPA down to god knows what. I’m not going to send my transcripts from my first school, and if they contact me and mention it, I’ll just apologize and send them off. Simple as that.</p>
<p>And you are replying to a month old thread to justify your unethical decision.</p>
<p>This is a bad bad move. You might think that you won’t get in if you turn in your other transcript so you have nothing to lose. That is false, if you do get in, you would be at risk of immediate expulsion if they find out. </p>
<p>Which would be more embarrassing?</p>
<p>Not getting in because your GPA is too low</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>Getting in and then getting expelled</p>
<p>Why not just write in your essays about how you performed poorly at your old school but then improved yourself. Write that the school won’t be getting the student who failed classes, but rather they are getting the student who has a 3.6 GPA.</p>
<p>it is def unethical to do so especially since you are taking a spot of a honest applicant.</p>
<p>but ethics aside…imo this thing prob works unless ur applying for financial aid or u do something bad after u transfer and the schools checks ur record more thoroughly.</p>
<p>yes the transfer schools may use the national clearinghouse to check up on applicants, but after a ferpa block is placed the transfer school would have to request info from that specific previous school. (not 100% sure but thats what it seems like)
BUT there is that remote possibility of getting caught…ex-girlfriend at previous school perhaps? haha :P</p>
<p>bt yea if u get caught the risks are way too huge…
graduating from UCI>>>getting accepted with the possibility of getting kicked out of Berkeley
wouldn’t u think?</p>
<p>what are the true chances of getting caught?
i think its very slim…would universities take time out to go in great detail of every applicants college history ? i dont think so.</p>
<p>i am actually thinking about trying this. the only problem is the current community college i was at… i applied for financial aid… but im planning on not applying for financial aid in the next community college that i start over at.</p>
<p>i reallly want to know the outcome of this guy…did he ever get caught???</p>
<p>Did you just apply for financial aid or did you accept and use the financial aid?</p>
<p>I went to a trade school, used student loans and got bad grades. 4 years later I went to community college, never told them about the school and applied and GOT financial aid in the form of pell grants. So, since I am getting money from the federal government don’t you think they would get ****ed that I didn’t tell them about my other school? Turns out no. I still got the money and they never knew I went to another school. Not saying to do this, or that it works for University, but I did it and it worked for CC.</p>
<p>Lying about past transcripts is far too risky. Even if the OP’s “FERPA block” works (and I doubt that it does), laws change. Imagine being thrown out on your ear in the middle of senior year due to academic dishonesty. No thanks.</p>
<p>I’m just curious. To all of the people who say that it could and most likely will work, wouldn’t it be very easy to just embellish about ECs as well? If a school doesn’t realize that one of their applicants went to another college and did poorly, what are the odds of finding out that you only did about 20 hours of community service as opposed to 100 or something else along those lines (assuming that an applicant doesn’t make up outrageous lies.)</p>
<p>Either way, it’s unethical and could come back to haunt you.</p>
<p>As a successful transfer-admitted student, from a lower-tier SUNY to NYU, I found this thread absolutely repulsive, and insulting to everything that I have worked for, and will be working for. </p>
<p>Apologies to Grind, or anyone else, for bumping this thread, but I would like to get my voice on record. </p>
<p>I completed my application with 100% honesty, and worked my ass off to turn around a mediocre academic record to a polished one. Lying, and it is lying, to a school about your previous academic performance is a colossus breach of ethics, and it’s a punch in the face to everyone else who went around the bend rather than cut corners. I hope I speak for most when I say that I sincerely hope you get caught. While you may be surrounded by the best, you are certainly not one of them, and I hope that gets ingrained into your head. Performing poorly at a school is one thing, not having the sack to own up to it is another. Having the audacity to hide it from universities? You’ve got to be kidding. Call me elitist, call me vindictive, but hearing that you’ve been caught, kicked out, and blacklisted would be fantastic news. There are no second chances with this one, and there is certainly no looking back for you. </p>
<p>PS. This has always been a pet peeve of mine, but saying “get a life” or “you guys have no lives” is a clear indicator of how clueless that poster is. We are all, for the most part, attending top tier universities. We are all, for the most part, well aware that there are a lot of people who would love the position we are in academically. We all have lives. Whether it be spending 5 minutes or 1 hour on College Confidential is irrelevant. Find another way to take a stab at someone, and don’t revert back to “gay” or “■■■” either. That never made sense to me. Intellect and wit are both key. Creativity is secondary. It’s not for everyone. Good luck.</p>
<p>Think about it this way. You’re all right that it is unethical and nobody should codone of it. BUT>>>>>In this economy many people are altering their resumes to get jobs that would otherwise not be there because of competition. Half the people who apply are fudging the numbers on their EC’s to get a better edge for admission, the same way people fudge their resume. It’s not right but it happens and most people do it mildly (not seriously) In this economic climate, some people just gotta do what they gotta do and they could care less how hard you worked for a spot, they just want to get in. Why would anyone care about your well being when they are struggling to get jobs, get into schools, and get ahead in life. Nobody should do something unethical, but it happens anyway because it’s a cruel and unusual world that we live in. So stop crying about how hard you worked and just accept the personal gratification that you were honest and got in honestly. Don’t hate on other people for fooling the system to get ahead in life. Blame the system for lack of regulation, and do your best in an honest way. I know I’m going to be honest and if I dont get in big deal I’ll go to a second or third choice school.</p>
<p>You make some very valid, however rash points. I would first like to point out your statement of " Being among the best, but not one of the best." On who’s defenition of best are you speaking? Yours? Or the general public? Because while im sure you have no problem identifying what your defenition of best is, you would be hard pressed at finding a definition the fully represents the public in which you speak of. Furthermore, your indication that the posters “lying to universities is a colossus breach of ethics.” One could also argue that in capitalist United States, not doing what one must to get ahead of his competition, can then too, be a colossus breach of ethics, from an alternate point of view.
Should someone be admitted on a faulty transcript, your argument seems to be that they are inferior to there peers that were admitted on a transcript that was 100% honest. If this is the case, given most universities grade on a curve then shouldn’t the former be weeded out and fall behind of his " superior peers" anyway?</p>
<p>I can tell your idealism comes from the place of integrity and witt, however it is not simply integrity and wit, that get one ahead in America today. It is the willingness to do what must be done. Even if it means having an “unfair advantage” over ones competition. </p>
<p>Im sure you have heard this before but " Life isn’t fair."</p>
<p>and to east 89, some schools actually have you verify hours/accomplishments at random of certain EC activities.</p>