Hello everyone, I currently have a small dilemma which I have tried researching with no definite answer. This is currently my last semester at a CCC and I will be receiving my AA-T in sociology. I am looking to apply to UCR, I have already TAG’d this school and will be filling out the normal application Nov.1. My question is do I need to have 2 years of foreign language? I was looking at the IGETC and it seems I do not fulfill the foreign language requirement for a UC. However I will be graduating with an AA-T and have taken and completed all classes listed on ASSIST.ORG associated with UCR and my major.
I do not know if this matters but I just got my transcripts from high school and It seems I have 1.5 years of foreign language completed with a C or better. One year I got a D in one spanish class so that will not count.
“In addition to the lower division requirements listed above, students are also
encouraged to complete the Intersegmental General Education Transfer Curriculum,
“IGETC”, while attending community college. Although completion of the IGETC is
not a UCR admission requirement, it is a good program for students planning to
transfer into majors housed in the College of Humanities, Arts and Social
Sciences. Information about completing IGETC is available at each community
college. Students also have the option of completing the UCR CHASS breadth
pattern, which is described under the “GE/Breadth” area of ASSIST.”
I’m assuming you’re fulfilling the 7 Course Breadth. No, a language is not required for admission, but it is often a graduation requirement. (I thought it was always required, but apparently it isn’t.)
@honormulan, Why are you still posting about this? You have two years of high school language (already verified with UC links and repeated comments) plus you are doing IGETC. We’re here to help but your over-thinking and second-guessing leads to wrong information. (Referring to other posts.)
If you are doing IGETC which you said you are earlier, and your major is Sociology, then you need language, but you already have it fulfilled. So this is a moot point.
@goldencub knows 100% what he’s talking about but he obviously thinks you’re breadth. You’re not breadth. You’re IGETC. While it is not an admissions req, sociology wants it. Without it, you have lowered your acceptance dramatically. Especially, as I believe, there are not that many major requirements. In fact, there may only be one that is articulated. Going in without IGETC is a bad choice. I’m not exactly sure how TAG will view it.
I know you’re understandably nervous, but you need to take a breath, look at the links provided to you as well as the suggested sociology rules if you want the best outcome.
I missed that. IGETC requires a foreign language component for complete certification. I know that, sometimes, people can get partial IGETC certification, and just finish the remaining couple of courses after transfer. I don’t know if this is allowed for the foreign language requirement.
At any rate, as @lindyk8 said, it is definitely best to have IGETC completed.
But perhaps you could just fulfill Breadth instead, if you’re unable to complete IGETC? Or get partial certification?
OT a bit: @goldencub, do you know how TAG works with that? If a major highly recommends IGETC - meaning it is a big component of their admissions criteria - and it isn’t completed, can TAG be denied? I really have no idea.
@lindyk8
My guess is that TAG won’t be affected since it’s based on a contract and the fulfillment of its separate requirements. If one manages to satisfy all contractual obligations that TAG imposes while not completing IGETC, one should still gain admission.
@lindyk8 I have no clue. I was under the impression that they just wanted some sort of GE completion - IGETC works, so does Breadth.
For example: Engineering majors are generally advised to follow breadth over igetc because they have so many major specific classes to complete. Will they be penalized for having completed IGETC? I doubt it, even if Breadth is highly recommended. I think the converse is true.
@goldencub IGETC is extremely important in most of the soft humanities and lack of completion can get you not admitted. Cayton is probably right - there is a loophole in the TAG situation. However, if OP gets denied TAG - which happens - and is rolled into regular applicant, I don’t know if 3.0-3.1 GPA, completion of maybe only 1-2 pre-reqs, and no IGETC is strong enough. Let’s put it this way - I would not advise someone to take that path. But we’ll see next April. I don’t really know how Riverside operates. Of course, OP earlier said she was doing IGETC.
From assist (cc to ucr, sociology) -
IGETC and General Education/Breadth Information:
In addition to the lower division requirements listed above, students are also encouraged to complete the Intersegmental General Education Transfer Curriculum, “IGETC”, while attending community college. Although completion of the IGETC is not a UCR admission requirement, it is a good program for students planning to transfer into majors housed in the College of Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences. Information about completing IGETC is available at each community college.
Students also have the option of completing the UCR CHASS breadth pattern, which is described under the “GE/Breadth” area of ASSIST.
I don’t see completing Breadth over IGETC to be a massive problem, but it would make sense that IGETC is preferred.
@lindyk8 I don’t know. I’ve never heard anything about schools massively preferring IGETC over Breadth. The assist page for my major to Cal, for example, says that one must complete IGETC OR Breadth. Same for Sociology to Cal. But again, I could be wrong.
Well I just looked and both sociology for Merced and Santa Cruz note IGETC. They don’t mention breadth. I do think it is the preferred path for CCC students - excluding engineering and other major course-heavy majors. Now if you’re coming from a non-CCC then obviously you won’t have it. But my feeling is why risk it or give them any reason to dump you? But I am super-cautious, so maybe I am over-reacting to it.
Having said that, you’ll be ok because of your GPA and it says either.
BTW, re Riverside, it says here in the matrix that for social sciences - IGETC is recommended. I only say this because this girl is at the low end of TAG and possible acceptance, so I would hate to see it fall apart:
