<p>So I've decided to do 1 year of De Anza Community College and I just took my placement test. Although I took Calculus senior year of high school (and got a B in it), I did not do well on the placement test in order to get placed in Calculus (I forgot all my pre-cal stuff and the test was all pre-cal). I'm going to take the 2nd placement test tomorrow again and will probably be placed in Pre-Calc something. Anyways, my question is do colleges care what math class I take my freshmen year if I'm a business major? I've been really stressing about this and would like to know because I know that I've taken Calc, yet, I have to take a step back and do Pre-Calc all over again.</p>
<p>Did you know that De Anza has a TAG agreement with SCU? If you wish to transfer for 2013 admission you would have to finish Calc 1A and Calc 1B by this fall, if you transfer for 2014, you have to finish it by next fall. Unfortunately I couldn’t finish those courses in tie for a TAG agreement.I applied to SCU’s business school without taking calculus a couple months ago, however I am finishing up Calc 1B right now. I don’t think calculus is a requirement to get in but it would definitely make you more competitive.</p>
<p>Yeah I’m aware they have a TAG agreement but I don’t think I’m going to get 45 units done in 1 quarter. But I do have another question: so let’s say I change my major to communications (which should be easier than business and requires less math). Is there any possible way I could transfer from De Anza to Santa Clara just after 1 year at De Anza? Also, I’ll be taking summer school in the summer to get some courses out of the way.</p>
<p>No need to rush out of De Anza. That way you can get solid letters of rec, also do the TAG, save money, get a higher GPA, and take a manageable workload. I have 90 units from CC and the time spent there was a huge asset to my education and even career.</p>
<p>If you are going to De Anza to save money and plan on transferring to SCU, definitely do not try to rush out of there in 1 year.
It is best to try to finish up the business school requirements and then try to knock out all of their GE’s.
The max SCU’s financial aid office offers to transfer students is $15,000 compared to their $40,000 tuition per year. That number does not include cost of living!
So $40,000 x 3 is a lot!
I was accepted to Leavey for this coming Fall and I did all of my GE’s my first year at USCB and then all of the requirements my second year at De Anza. I was accepted without the transfer agreement. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that their application is open until April 15 (they have rolling admissions) and that you do have to report your expected course work for the entire year. This is good because they can see what track you’re on and if you will be close to completing everything they want.</p>
<p>@caretostayfortea Haha I know it’s a lot of money, but man I’m an impatient person. A lot of my friends are going to SCU and I would like to be there with them you know? I’ve decided to do communications instead of business instead (I’m still undecided really but I’ve been researching communications and it seems interesting). Is it even possible to get out of De Anza after 1 year?</p>
<p>I think that De Anza and SCU are close enough in location for it to not make a difference that you and your friends aren’t at the same school. You should definitely keep the 40k price tag in mind when thinking about long term. While it might be nice to go to the same school as your friends for an extra year, is it really worth $40,000?
Especially since the first two years are general ed and lower division requirements anyway.</p>
<p>With that being said, it’s possible to get out of De Anza in one year. It’s a community college. They’re not dying to keep you there.
I think if you have already chosen summer classes, finishing a good amount of the GE’s in one year is pretty feasible. That is, if you are willing to take 18-20 units a quarter. </p>
<p>You should contact an admissions person at SCU about this. They are pretty helpful.</p>
<p>No pals are worth 40k to hang out with–especially since you can already hang out Fri thru Sunday with them for free. Make lunch dates on campus during the week in SCU campus with friends and plan a trip after grafuatiin with that 40k that is apparently burning a hole in your pocket.</p>
<p>Do you guys think if I take about 15 units per quarter I have a chance? I’ve noticed that it’s rolling admissions from Jan-Apr so if it’s possible, what are my chances if I manage a good GPA and take their recommended courses? I’ve decided to major in communications instead of business.</p>
<p>In case you didn’t see it:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/santa-clara-university/1353540-transferring-scu-after-1-year-cc.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/santa-clara-university/1353540-transferring-scu-after-1-year-cc.html</a></p>
<p>@turtulerock ahhh thank you. I did not see that actually. I guess my chances are pretty slim then :/</p>
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Unfortunately, because most other transfers from DA will have the majority (if not all) of IGETC or CSUGE completed, and they also apply to SCU (which should be a considerable amount since it’s just down the highway from DA), then they would be outcompeting you academically - which is what SCU states they base their transfer admissions on.</p>
<p>Again, IMHO, it’s your best bet to set up a UC or CSU transfer track while simultaneously reviewing the classes for the SCU TAA with DA so that you can pick the specific classes that count towards both transferring to a UC/CSU and SCU. Then, at the end of your CC stay, you can pick up anything else left over you may need otherwise for the SCU TAA that the UC/CSU route may not cover, which is realitically possibly a couple classes at most.</p>
<p>Even if it takes you more than 1 year to do, like 2, then it will be saving you a lot of money by being cleared from taking the same classes over at SCU and in effect possibly reducing your debt load compared to your peers, when in the end your degree certificate will have the same name as your friends. If you think you’ll be at a social disadvantage for those first 2 years being at a CC, then I can assure you 20, 15, even 10 years from the time you graduate no one will care that you went to the CC–>transfer route. And if they’re really good friends, they will find time to connect and hang out with you because you’re important to them.</p>
<p>EDIT: And as to your original post in this thread - Pre-Calc at DA would only set you back 1 math class as an intended business major. The only required prerequisite for Math 12 (Calculus for Business and Social Science) is the first quarter of the pre-calc series (Math 41). So in the end it’s 1 extra math class. Not so bad.</p>
<p>Be sure to utilize the Summer terms and Saturday classes to your advantage as well. Are you taking any classes this Summer? If you take 12 units or more this Summer, then you can take up to 21.5 (more classes at once) units this upcoming Fall and thereafter by just filing a petition as opposed to doing a formal request through the Dean of Counseling.</p>
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For example, ICS (Intercultural Studies) 5, an Art History class, is preliminarily* offered for the DA Fall 2012 term on Saturday - which just so happens to be on the SCU TAA Recommended classes list covering item 5 (Diversity) or 7 (Cultures and Ideas III) for a BA or item 6 (Diversity) for a BS, depending on whichever major you’d go for in the CAS now that you feel to stray from Business.</p>
<p>This would allow you to take a recommended course on Saturday while still taking a full load of classes during the week (M-Th), if you don’t mind spending 4 hours of your Saturday in class.</p>
<p>*Official class schedule for DA for Fall 2012 is released on June 25th.</p>
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I think that’s changed starting Fall 2012 transfer admits:
<a href=“http://www.deanza.edu/transfer/taa_tag_main/taa_scu.html[/url]”>http://www.deanza.edu/transfer/taa_tag_main/taa_scu.html</a>
I think the odds are that they’ll do the same thing for Fall 2013 transfers and beyond.</p>
<p>EDIT 2: It’s fair to say that that’s pertaining to admission to SCU with TAA, since SCU’s website doesn’t show when it was last updated but still shows rolling admission Jan 7 - Apr 15 and the fact that technically any student can transfer without meeting TAA (just the min reqs), but as stated before, that may leave the applicant at a disadvantage at admission chances.</p>
<p>@turtlerock Thanks a lot for the info. You’ve been really informative with all of this. Do you think I should just apply this year and then just do the TAA if I’m rejected?</p>
<p>Idk if this was mentioned or not, but for many CC classes to count, SCU requires that a whole group of classes be taken. If not, then none count! I noticed this on the TAA between SCU and my CCC.</p>
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I see what you mean: apply for Fall 2013 admission no matter how many classes/units you have and if you’re rejected, then apply the following year with the TAA. I’d personally look at that 2 ways. 1) Why not? You’ve got nothing to lose and the worst that can happen is yuo get rejected and take one more (already anticipated) year at CC, and lose $55 in the application fee. 2) Well do you think you can have a strong enough GPA and adequate essays to compete with the other transfer applicants? I think one of the questions on their CommonApp is if you’ve ever applied there before, but I’m not sure how much weight they put on students applying for consecutive years (I don’t know if they’d view it as good determination, or bad ‘he can’t take the hint’).</p>
<p>Since SCU is a private school, a lot of the admissions stuff is based in secrecy and they can choose to do anything really. But I’m all for a try. If you are accepted without TAA however, just keep in mind that SCU can pick and choose, even arbitraily, which credits they will actually take (or indeed none at all!), so you may end up taking almost all of the classes over again that you took while at the CC for that first year - which I look at is just a bigger cost for college in general. In summary, if you know your heart is set on SCU and you think you can a) maintain a high GPA (I’m talking like as close to 4.0 as you can get to at least entice the admissions officers to favor you over the other applicants), b) do something unique or meaningful in the next year that can add to the SCU community and student body that is otherwise un-, or lowly represented, and c) convey your intentions and accomplishments solidly through your essays and application supplement (keeping the University Mission in mind), then shoot for it.</p>
<p>EDIT: If they see that you are applying again for a second time, most likely they will look for something different than what you offered them the first time around, so maintaing a high GPA won’t be the only factor. At that point you may need to demonstrate some sort of growth or new significant activity to back-up your claim that htye should give you a second look.</p>
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<p>It isn’t really all that much more secret than a public school. SCU, like most publics and privates, posts statistics about their admissions. And if one follows the particular subforums, most people can figure out what helps transfer students get into SCU… or Stanford… or whereever. </p>
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<p>My daughter transferred into SCU. The transfer office used prior student transfer classes as a template for which classes they automatically accepted and used a lot of common sense. They were not unusually stingy or rejecting of the transfer classes. Then they sent her to talk to the head of the English department to get her specific English literature classes (her major) approved for transfer. That was a friendly 25 minute meeting where my daughter showed her saved syllabi from her prior college and every single one was approved. She was missing one syllabus and the professor merely asked her to tell her what text books/novels were covered and based on that 20 second reply she got that class approved for transfer as well.</p>
<p>Doesn’t sound particularly difficult to get classes approved without a TAA–what was reasonably similar between the two colleges got the credit.</p>
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I meant that the school can use more disctretion without reason than a public. It’s one way to explain the 3.0 GPA student being accepted while the 3.7 GPA was not when they were otherwise very closely similar - the (arguable) exuse of well-rounded/whole student admissions policies, with little or no accountability for the decision.</p>
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This is a good news experience for the OP, though I’ve also heard stories completely the opposite, and again as a private school can choose to do for one student that they will not do for another, again with no legally needed explination, since there is no solid policy equivalent as the CCC–> UC/CSU route. I’m also going to presume a lot may have to do with the dean of each major as some may view CC classes as inferior to SCUs. Had the English Dept individual just flat out said no to all or a lot of those English classes (syllabi or not), then she would have had to just take that as a final answer with no explination and no other real route to take.</p>
<p>I’m just trying to warn the OP of the types of things that can happen. Of course everything can work out peachy - and that’s often what students will focus on happening and not prepare for the bumps in the road.</p>
<p>And to help the OP further along, how long did your D stay at CC before transferring to SCU (i.e. did she stay long enough to complete a lot of the TAA listed courses by way of following IGETC/CSUGE like most other CCC students would, or was she able to transfer after her first year at CC)?</p>