<p>if you are in the college of arts and sciences, you may pursue a dual degree by internally transferring to wharton.</p>
<p>however, i believe if you are a junior, you are denied that ability. i imagine there are exceptions to rules, so has anyone heard of a student transferring to wharton as a junior, or personally done so themselves? what if you take all of wharton's curriculum during your upenn undegrad years, and do well? can they retroactively grant you a wharton degree before you graduate?</p>
<p>also, this situation is for a transfer who is transferring into the CAS next fall. i imagine a way around it would be to ask for less credits and receive sophomore standing, because as transfers, you need to personally go to each department and petition for credits.</p>
<p>Why didn't you just apply to Wharton as an external transfer? Even as a Wharton student, you can take over 40% of your classes in other schools (i.e. CAS).</p>
<p>You should just call a Penn representative and discuss this matter, because I doubt there are very many people who are in such a unique position (external CAS transfer trying to dual in Wharton starting junior year). </p>
<p>Were you the one, who just switched decisions from Brown to Penn?</p>
<p>if i'm not mistaken, transfers to penn are forbidden from internal transfer within the university.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that's the case, as well.</p>
<p>External Transfer students:</p>
<pre><code>* External Transfer students cannot apply until they have completed two resident semesters at Penn.
* External Transfer students can apply for the Dual Degree program ONLY. They cannot apply for Internal Transfer.
* External Transfer students who are accepted into the Dual Degree program MUST complete the degree program in their home school and cannot just complete their Wharton degree.
* External Transfer students accepted into the junior class at Penn (i.e., students who have already completed 2 years of college) are NOT eligible to apply for a Dual Degree with Wharton.
</code></pre>
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<li>The</a> Wharton School - Undergraduate Division</li>
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<p>Considering that you transferred in officially as a junior, I don't see any clear loophole. I think it's silly to avoid transferring courses/credits just to have the option of applying for dual degree program at the END of your 3rd in college (since you need to have had completed 2 resident semester at Penn). Plus think about the tuition you paid for those courses during your 2 years at UCLA. </p>
<p>My opinion, the opportunity cost simply to apply (no guarantee of acceptance, not to mention all all the admission factors such as GPA, course requirements, etc. etc.) is way too high.</p>
<p>Browncal: You are two years through your undergraduate program and have only two years left. I recommend you make the most of it and quit jumping around all over the place (Cal to Brown to Penn/SAS to Wharton...) There is always time later to go for an MBA at Wharton or somewhere else. There were great opportunities at Cal and Brown and now there are great opportunities for you at Penn/SAS. Just pluck some of these great opportunities there that are waiting to be grabbed.</p>
<p>ocho cinco, i did not apply to wharton because i thought it would be limiting. i have a passion for the sciences and really wanted to major in BBB. you make really good points about the opportunity cost simply to APPLY. does wharton look only at your GPA as an internal transfer? if, so, id have a much easier time getting in.</p>
<p>now i have thought of a plan that may or may not work...i could petition for less credits and obtain sophomore standing --> apply to wharton as in internal transfer --> petition for the remaining credits during my senior year at penn. the reason i am so insistent on getting a dual degree is because i would be taking all the wharton curriculum classes anyway at penn, and its just nice to be recognized for it.</p>
<p>philly_guy2, for the record, i am deciding between brown and penn, not jumping from cal to brown to penn. please don't make assumptions. and you are right to some extent, but i'd be staying at penn for an extra year anyway, so i figured i might as well make the most out of my THREE years at penn. also, the ability to dual is the determining factor in deciding between penn and brown, so i kind of need to find out my options.</p>
<p>Why do you want to go to Wharton so bad again? Is it the prestige thing?</p>
<p>From A Guide for Transfer Students 2007-2008:</p>
<p>"Transfer students who wish to matriculate into the
Wharton School must do so through initial admission to
the University; externally admitted transfer students are
not permitted to transfer again within the University.
Transfer students enrolled in the other three undergraduate
schools may still take Wharton courses but will not be able
to transfer internally once they are at Penn."</p>
<p>eloquence,</p>
<p>prestige in this case isn't a factor. as i already mentioned, i'd be taking classes at wharton anyway since id be staying for three years (i cant finish BBB and my remaining classes in two) so its the matter of just getting recognition for what ive accomplished.</p>
<p>wraider,
my question was regarding the dual degree, not transferring INTO wharton.</p>
<p>Recognition for what you've accomplished....?</p>
<p>You'll have to elaborate more ;]</p>
<p>Yeah seriously. How does taking the core curriculum classes = accomplishing something???</p>
<p>I'm sorry if I'm misinterpreting your true motivations, but to me, it's simply a prestige thing i.e. you want that wharton brand name at the top of your resume.</p>
<p>Additionally, you say you thought Wharton would be limiting, but now you're doing the whole Wharton core (not to mention the concentration seqeunce in Wharton if you successfully get admitted as dual degree student). If you want to add a business edge to your profile, you don't need to take the whole Wharton core and concentration (multiple courses in finance, acct, management, opim, stats, marketing, and a concentration sequence). You say you're a passionate science student, so why not take science/quantitative courses instead?</p>
<p>So you're saying you're behind in your primary degree (and need a 3rd year at penn), but you're withholding credits that could be transferred into Penn AND want to commit to another degree in another school (wharton)???</p>
<p>You've started MANY threads on investment banking at Brown vs Upenn CAS, "best CAS major for a business person," best course of study for business etc., BUT you didn't apply to Wharton because it's limiting and are a passionate science student?? </p>
<p>You're first thread after committing to Penn: how can I now manipulate a loophole to get into Wharton?</p>
<p>It's not hard to connect the dots.</p>
<p>as a matter a fact, i have not committed to penn yet. my decision is contingent upon whether or not i will be able dual at upenn.</p>
<p>having a wharton degree on my resume will probably give me the edge when applying to jobs in the future, so if that is what you call "prestige" then yes.</p>
<p>but i care more about being able to obtain a CAS BBB degree over wharton (i ultimately am thinking of med school), as i knew being able to dual would be something risky. so i chose to apply for CAS knowing that a dual with wharton may or may not be obtainable.</p>
<p>i would be withholding credits only in hopes of being able to apply to wharton in the first place by getting sophomore standing. since im staying for three years at penn, i dont think completing two degrees during that time frame should be a problem, so i shouldnt worry about being behind.</p>
<p>pretty much, im the ambitious type and trying and get both degrees. don't hate.</p>
<p>Even if you aren't able to do dual degrees, you can still put on your resume that you took courses in Wharton (and even list them), thereby showing future employers that you have a Wharton "edge" to your science-focused liberal arts education. That should count for a lot in the eyes of an employer.</p>
<p>you know, there's always the option of doing an interschool minor that has wharton classes as part of the requirements.</p>
<p>now you're already focused on bbb as a major, but there is a bbb and healthcare management (hcmg) minor that requires 4 bbb and 4 hcmg classes.</p>
<p>plenty of non-wharton students take wharton classes and list them on their resumes - they have absolutely no problem getting financial services / consulting jobs when their background is disclosed.</p>