Typical Asian (That Chances Back)

<p>Ok, so i'm shooting for the top schools (harvard, Yale, etc) and am clueless about my chances.</p>

<p>Stats:
Ethnicity:Asian
Gender:Male
GPA:4.0 (Lots of AP and rigorous coursework)
Rank:3 out of 600
ACT:35
SAT II: 750 Biology, 800 Math 2,, 780 Physics</p>

<p>EC's:
Piano: 12 years, won numerous regional contests, one for nine years straight
Violin
Guitar
Tennis
Numerous national awards (National Honor Society, etc)
Debate
400 volunteer hours at hospital
50 hours at court</p>

<p>Strong reccomendations
Decent essays (at least)</p>

<p>Would I stand a chance?</p>

<p>I would say you have a good chance (admittedly I dont know much). I would apply ED to one of the schools though, to boost your chances more!</p>

<p>Hope this helps!</p>

<p>Here is my chance thread:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/745975-chance-me-brown-please.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/745975-chance-me-brown-please.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You have a good chance. Not 100% of course, but I would be surprised if you didn’t get accepted to at least one.</p>

<p>You do seem like the typical asian applicant though, make sure your essays tie together your EC’s and your passions!</p>

<p>Your essay will be what sets you apart from the others.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/746539-chance-asian-artist.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/746539-chance-asian-artist.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You have very strong stats, but you are an ORM. you are most definitely qualified for those schools, but with your status, it might be hard to get in. What state are you from? If you are from CA, you will be in a very large pool of applicants just like yourself, if you are from Wyoming, maybe you will have a better shot :D. good luck!
chance back? <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/736144-chance-upcoming-senior-my-school-picks.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/736144-chance-upcoming-senior-my-school-picks.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Oh boy… another Asian applicant. </p>

<p>Here’s my opinion of the breakdown, which uses almost same text that I have posted on another thread, to another Asian applicant with similar stats.</p>

<p>Background information: Ethnicity and Gender are automatically a minus. Asians comprise of 4.4% of the American civilian population, as of 2002, but make up 20% of college students (Government Census). Since it’s been 7 years since the provided census was made, we can probably assume that the percentages are much higher, and as such, we are vastly over-represented and held to a much higher standard than other minorities. (Well, at least you aren’t an Asian girl)</p>

<p>Numbers: Solid, you really don’t need to retake anything, but applicants to Ivy schools will have similar stats. What should distinguish anyone from the pool are one’s ECs, recommendations, and essays. But again, your numbers are stellar and should be a big boost to your chances. </p>

<p>ECs: Story time! One of my mentors is a current college student. Like you, he was stellar musician and a tennis player. He was a concertmaster and the orchestra president to one of the best orchestras in the state. In addition, he was a first violinist in the All-Northwest orchestra, an orchestra that takes students from Alaska, Oregon, Washington, and Idaho. Also, he was a part of the University of Washington music conservatory system and the first violin in the Seattle Youth Symphony, the best youth symphony in the Northwest. IN ADDITION, he was our valedictorian, a class officer, captain of the varsity tennis team, a published journalist in state and national newspapers, and the president of the school’s biggest community service organization club. However, come April 1st, he was rejected to all of the Ivies he had applied to (but he did go to one of the best liberal arts schools in the world. Yay!). When I asked my tutor (he and I had the same tutor, who is a syndicated columnist that writes about education), he told me that he was rejected because he did not distinguish himself in his pool. Why? Because he was TOO Asian.</p>

<p>Okay, moving on. I promise things will be happier here </p>

<p>Debate: You do have some strong awards here. Ivies definitely love debaters, especially Cross-X. I don’t know your district, and your awards, but if you have made it to district/state/nationals, that’s a nice feather to your cap.</p>

<p>Hospital: Many people volunteer at hospitals, but 400 hours is definitely intense and shows an incredible commitment. </p>

<p>Hooks?: Where are you from? Are you the first generation college student in your family? Do you need financial aid?</p>

<p>Overall: As KRNPro has said, you need to distinguish yourself from other Asians, which is ironic, considering that he and I are both Asians. You have about four months before most of the college applications are due. Take that four months and do something that almost NO ONE (or at least almost NO ASIAN) teen has done before, to distinguish yourself from the crowd. This is a must. I’m not even kidding. </p>

<p>Addition: Are you only asking for Ivies? Any other colleges that you are currently considering? Many Asians (and their parents) don’t know this, but many high-tier Liberal Arts Colleges (LAC), such as Swarthmore, Harvey Mudd, and Reed have produced a higher doctorate rate for undergrads than any Ivy league institution. Check the link below.</p>

<p>(P.S. could you please list your schools?)</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p20-540.pdf[/url]”>http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p20-540.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.swarthmore.edu/x15575.xml[/url]”>http://www.swarthmore.edu/x15575.xml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And… backchance
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/746334-what-my-chances-these-liberal-arts-colleges-others.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/746334-what-my-chances-these-liberal-arts-colleges-others.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I’m a rural Texan</p>

<p>ummm…yale, harvard, brown, columbia, stanford, upenn are the reaches
rice,UT,and duke are matches/safeties IMO</p>

<p>Yeah, your stats are pretty stereotypically Asian, but they’re good enough to give you a good shot at any school you apply to. If your school sends many (or even a few) people to HYP on the average year, you will probably be able to get into at least one of them, but it’s impossible to be definite. Just make sure that your application conveys some sense of passion. Your first priority definitely should be your essays, because they will be what set you apart from every asian genius infiltrating the system ;)</p>

<p>Oh, and here’s my thread. Please be critical, I need some constructive criticism.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1062924019[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1062924019&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>samsunimomo…</p>

<p>What do you mean “something that no other asian has done”?</p>

<p>^besides file for bankruptcy? lol jk, she means something i could do too distunguish myself</p>

<p>Yeah but any examples?</p>

<p>Well, for one, I know that a girl from an adjacent county climbed Mount Everest after training for six months. Good grief. What I just typed out sounds ridiculous, but you shouldn’t ask an Asian to tell you what an Asian hasn’t done. </p>

<p>Rural areas are always a plus.</p>

<p>Sorry. I know this is sensory overload. It is, even for me right now. What I have noticed is that your college list contains some very well known names. I strongly suggest that you research some lesser-known colleges. There are many institutions that provide a superior undergraduate education than Ivy leagues. Scout’s honor. I’m applying there. </p>

<p>yale-High Reach
harvard-High Reach
brown-Low/Mid Reach
columbia - Low/Mid Reach
stanford-Mid/High Reach
upenn- Low/Mid Reach</p>

<p>rice - Match
UT - Safety
duke - Match</p>

<p>You have as good as chance as anyone at the ivies, could u chance me(first page) thnx</p>

<p>Go to a bookstore/library and read a copy of “The College Hook” by Pam Proctor. Best college admissions guide I’ve ever read.</p>

<p>HYPS all high reaches. Brown, Columbia, UPenn are low(er) reaches.
The most important thing is to find out what makes you unique, and emphasize that. I know many people with stats/ECs that are very similar to yours, so be sure to distinguish yourself.</p>