<p>"By Jodi S. Cohen </p>
<p>Tribune higher education reporter </p>
<p>Published May 15, 2006, 10:16 PM CDT </p>
<p>Responding to a public outcry, University of Illinois officials on Monday scrapped a plan that would have made it harder for Illinois students to get into the state's premier public university. "</p>
<p>Too bad! It's a great school and trying to be better. I hate to see them cave to "public outcry".</p>
<p>agree, bad decision, especially for a mid-sized state like Illinois.</p>
<p>I didn't agree with all the opinions offered pro and con on the orginial thread, but I guess the idea went over like the proverbial lead balloon.</p>
<p>Illinois is large enough to have two desirable state schools like Mich and MSU or Indiana and Purdue. They need to select and upgrade on from the ISU, SIU, NIU group.</p>
<p>I think it would be easiest to upgrade UIC, UIC is probably illinois' second best state school</p>
<p>Good for them. Seriously. They're doing the right thing. Illinois state schools need to consider Illinois state residents first. Everyone else later.</p>
<p>there is a tradeoff though. If you open up the school to a significant minority of OOS students, academic standards will rise, which will benefit the majority of in-staters who attend. this in turns will help reduce the brain drain of top in-staters to other colleges perceived to be more selective. Same dynamics as free trade benefitting everyone.</p>
<p>I think a 70-30 Ill-OOS mix sounds about right, as opposed to 90-10. What's the current breakdown?</p>
<p>Indiana and Michigan don't have top private schools (like UChicago and Nortwestern).</p>
<p>Notre Dame?</p>
<p>I think it's less a matter of cutting off admission and more a matter of self-selective application pool.</p>
<p>Look...UIUC is ranked #42 by US News (not that rankings mean EVERYTHING), and is very strong in such fields as engineering, business, and political science. If it ain't broke, why fix it?</p>
<h1>42 sounds a bit low to me, they should aim higher. With an "If it ain't broke, why fix it" attitude, UI is just going to sink slowly, as private schools have been very aggressive.</h1>
<p>DTan: Illinois has a bigger population than MI or IN.</p>
<p>uiuc is usually ranked between #35 to #40 on US News ranking.</p>
<p>Indiana has very good state schools, but no state has the 1-2 punch of state schools, like Michigan with UM and MSU. You could argue California, and I would agree on a level. But technically, Berkeley and UCLA are the same school (the University of California) just with different campuses. And, yes, Notre Dame does separate Indiana from Michigan. Although Kalamazoo College is a great private liberal arts college, Michigan does not have a private University of ND's caliber.</p>
<p>LOL, MSU homer to a ridiculous extent.</p>
<p>Yeah, so much so, I promote the State: UM as well as MSU. You sound like a fool, Wolves.</p>
<p>You're saying UM+MSU = UCB+UCLA = UVA+W+M</p>
<p>But again, I need to remember that you weren't properly educated. Maybe you should go back to a real school and get a better education.</p>
<p>That's too bad. I think they were heading down the right direction. Besides increasing the diversity, raising the selectivity of its flag university will benefit the state in the long run.</p>
<p>Comparing UIUC with its public peers regarding OOS admission:</p>
<p>[University]...[% out-of-state] overall (freshman)
Indiana ... 33% (35%)
Iowa ... 30% (35%)
Michigan ... 31% (36%)
Penn State ... 23% (34%)
Purdue ... 26% (28%)
Wisconson ... 29% (35%)
UVa ... 28% (30%)
UNC ... 18% (18%) (state law requires 82% in-state)
UWash ... 23% (17%)</p>
<p>UIUC ... 8% (12%)
Ohio State ... 9% (12%)
Mich State ... 9% (11%)
UTexas ... 5% (4%) (top 10% in-state auto admit)</p>
<p>UIUC lags most of its public peers in this aspect. UIUC will have to raise its admissions standards if it hopes to catch up with Michigan, Wisconsin, UVa and UNC or even maintain its current position. Btw, it's already doing that in its most prestigious and selective colleges - engineering and business.</p>
<p>% out-of-state students admitted in 2005-2001
Engineering: 18.8, 23.0, 24.7, 22.8 and 26.2
Business: 15.7, 17.7, 17.4, 10.9 and 11.3</p>
<p>The dean of the business school was talking about raising admissions standards, so you can expect to see that number going up in the next couple years.</p>