UC Berkely Out-of-State Engineering

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>what are my chances for the COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING AT UC BERKELEY OUT-OF-STATE?</p>

<p>Me:</p>

<p>-Sex/Race: Male, diverse background but not URM, no hooks
-GPA: 4.68 weighted, unweighted 3.91
-Rank: 4/600 weighted, unweighted 17/600
-SAT: 2170 (670 CR/ 790 M / 710 W)
-SAT II: 740-Math II/ 710-Biology-E / 670 Physics (will be retaking)
-AP's: Calc BC (5) Bio (5) Mico (5) Macro (5) Psych (5) Lang (4) US History (3)
Next year's APs are Chem, Stat
-IB's: Spanish SL (6), Psychology SL (5)
Next year's IB's are Physics HL, History HL, Calculus HL, English HL</p>

<p>Activites/Extracurriculars/Awards
-150 CAS hours (IB requirement) = volunteer
-NHS - 11th/12th
-Varsity Soccer - 12th
-Engineering Club - 11th/12th
-Model UN - 10th/11th/12th
-Link Leader = volunteer -11th/12th
-IB Mentor = volunteer - 12th
-World Affairs Challenge - 11th/12th
-Chess club - 11th/12th
-Play chess competetively
-All-school math award
-Conducted research at a university in the summer</p>

<p>THANKS. I will chance back.</p>

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<p>You’ve got a good shot. Retake the SAT though if you think you can do better.</p>

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<p>Thanks! but does anyone know the admission percentage for the college of engineering for out-of-state students? </p>

<p>I’ve heard its much harder to get in out-of-state and its much harder to get into the college of engineering so I’m worried because I am doing both…</p>

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<p>Here’s the Fall 2009 Profile.</p>

<p><a href=“http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/pdf/ucb_chart.pdf[/url]”>http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/pdf/ucb_chart.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>86.4% In-State
13.6% OOS (I believe this includes Int’ls)</p>

<p>OOS is up from 8% a year or two ago and budget cuts are driving the school to admit more OOS who pay higher tuition. Of course that implies that there won’t be much fin-aid to offset that higher cost.</p>

<p>[UC</a> Hopes To Expand Non-State Admission - The Daily Californian](<a href=“http://www.dailycal.org/article/103747/uc_hopes_to_expand_non-state_admission]UC”>http://www.dailycal.org/article/103747/uc_hopes_to_expand_non-state_admission)</p>

<p>Interesting paragraph:</p>

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<p>So, an OOS gets to pay more and attend a school that is expanding it’s student body while not expanding housing and may in fact be cutting back on the number of classes/sections offered. What a deal!</p>

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<p>Your chance is pretty slim</p>

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<p>Okay. Why?</p>

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<p>Your ECs aren’t great. You’re out of state. And your SATI and SATII are sub=par</p>

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<p>Alright</p>

<p>Other opinions?</p>

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<p>Pros:</p>

<p>2 of 3 SAT Is in the top category designated by UCB
2 of 3 SAT IIs over 700
Excellent GPA (.09 from perfect 4.0)
Top 1% Class Rank
Stated University & State position promoting OOS admits</p>

<p>Cons:</p>

<p>SAT I CR is low for UCB
SAT II Physics might be considered low for an engineering student
ECs are diverse and balanced but, with one exception, all started last year. Resume padding?
OOS applicant for what is assumed to be a very competitive major - this by far is the biggest hurdle</p>

<p>Berkeley is a tough admit for any non-Californian to begin with, adding in a competitive major like engineering will make it even more difficult. I think your profile is enough to get you considered, but the preference given California residents makes it a reach.</p>

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<p>Thank you that was actually very useful!</p>

<p>Besides retaking the SAT and SATIIs what else can I do?
What test scores do I need?</p>

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<p>One thing that u can easily do is ask your parents to buy a house in California. With your GPA and test scores, u’ll get into Berkeley if from in-state.</p>

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<p>I asked, the answer was no…</p>

<p>:(</p>

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<p>I think you have a good shot. They have said they’ll be accepting more OOS students this year because they need the money. Do think about whether you want to pay $47K/yr for a school in financial crisis. You may well end up paying that for 5 years–graduating in 4 is getting tougher, making it more expensive than a top private.</p>

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<p>you’ll become resident after a year. No worries</p>

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<p>Not correct.</p>

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<p>Why not…?</p>

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<p>Your chances are not that bad. I would just improve the SAT II’s and I think your chances are good.</p>

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<p>Those who apply as OOS remain OOS for their entire time at a UC.</p>