UC Irvine TAG & "Good Standing" requirement

Transfer Students UC Transfers
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<p>Hi y'all, I previously attended and ruined my academic history at the local CC named PCC. Long story short, I am at another local CC a few miles away named MCC. I also ruined my academic history here but I managed to turn it around. I'm planning on tagging to UCI, I have just been certified IGETC, completed all major pre reqs except for a two semester programming course which I am taking at PCC. </p>

<p>Now here is the crappy part, after academic renewal at PCC, my UC GPA is 3.0 there, (I only had two classes that were UC transferable). But my overall GPA is 1.7, due to the fact I hit a limit on how many units I could apply Academic Renewal to. Now, without regards to TAG/UC, I could care less because those classes aren't UC transferable anyways. But the TAG requirement for UCI is that I be in "Good Standing" at all institutions. I am currently enrolled in a 1 of 2 programming class there, as well as some other courses at MCC as well, concurrently enrolled in both. Since my PCC GPA is abysmal, do I not qualify for UCI TAG?</p>

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<p>Did you AR or repeat ALL of your UC-transferable courses at all colleges, or just some of them?</p>

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<p>LAforlife:</p>

<p>I did AR for some classes, and repeated others. Did this at BOTH campuses. My UC GPA and overall GPA at MCC is 3.5+, it’s at PCC I am concerned about. I am going to attempt another round of AR at PCC, their catalog states I can submit a petition if I am over the limit, I’ll pretend I’m ignorant to that while I submit the AR form with a petition ready if they say no. There are no more substandard classes I can retake at PCC, the only ones affecting me are classes that are not UC Transferable so it would be a waste of time. And even if I had the time, I still wouldn’t be considered “Good Standing” when UCI reviews my TAG application because grades won’t even be out until January. I’m SOL unless they grant me another round of AR.</p>

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<p>Ah. Okay, well if ALL of your UC-transferable courses are in good order then I wouldn’t worry too much. The UCs don’t really care about the others. I would call UCI and other TAG-able schools to ask them about your situation. Even if they all politely tell you that you won’t meet their TAG requirements as a result of your academic standing (and ONLY if this is the sole reason), I would submit a TAG anyway and hope for the best. If they do contact you or your school, make sure that you tell them everything and provide all information necessary and on time. If you lie or avoid them however, it may be considered “academic dishonesty”, and that could lock you out from the UCs. But it’s not your job to do their job for them. If they determine you to be ineligible for TAG, then you tried, but if they don’t, it’s not your fault as long as you gave them whatever information they asked for. </p>

<p>Also, what is your cumulative UC GPA from all colleges?</p>

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<p>This is a perfect example of why students who were admitted to UCs and even some CSUs as freshmen often hold CCC transfers in low regard. The freshman admits had to meet often very tough admission standards to get into a four year and had to pass their lower division courses the first time they took them to stay at their school. A student with a GPA below 2.0 will be academically dismissed from any of the UCs or CSUs. However at CCCs it seems you can fail classes again and again at one CCC after another and make all of the failing grades vanish from your transcript by repeatedly getting AR and retaking failed classes and getting a new grade.</p>

<p>Eventually, it seems, anybody can get into a UC by going to multiple CCCs where there are no admission standards, stay as long as they want and get all of their failing grades expunged from their transcript allowing them to finally get a 3.00 GPA which is good enough for admission to some UC. A 3.00 GPA would never get a high school student in as a freshman or a transfer applicant from a four year university admitted to any UC but CCC transfers get top priority and a 3.00 GPA will get them in for sure at at least three of the UCs and gives them a reasonably good chance of admission at a couple more.</p>

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<p>^^What’s your point? How is this relevant to the OP? Seems like you’re just trolling now.</p>

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<p>To the OP: Congratulations! It appears you’ve really turned yourself around! Unfortunately, I’m not sure if you’ll qualify for a TAG but try anyway. The worst that can happen is they deny the TAG and your application is treated as a regular app. That said, some UCs have different requirements about things than others, so be careful! Some will want a minimum GPA across your major prereqs too ;)</p>

<p>I think the fact you’ve managed to turn things around will help you immensely, and using whatever did get you to turn around on your admission essay will help show you’re dedicated to your subject and truly enjoy it. Best of luck!</p>

<p>BTW, I think your UC transferable GPA is what really matters. That, and UCI does sometimes state the minimum GPA for major prereqs; that also will matter! A 1.7 GPA is not in good standing? Ugh I dunno man, I think your chances will be decent even without the TAG, especially since you’ll have full IGETC and it sounds like all prereqs satisfied, too. </p>

<p>Lemaitre, the CCC->CSU/UC transfer option saves the butts of a lot of people that either drop out or fail out of a CSU or UC on their first try out of high school. </p>

<p>Transfer students don’t have that luxury - you screw up and you’ve probably accumulated too many units to try that again. Since transfer students only get in if they’ve finished most or all of their lower division classes, they get to deal with moving, their first time at a university, AND upper division classes in their first quarter. If they aren’t dealing with upper division classes, they’re probably still going to be dealing with a weeder or two. </p>

<p>That’s not even talking about just how hard it is to get up to transfer status - does your major require you to take chem, organic chem, or the calculus physics series? Good luck getting in those classes! Even in the UCs, it’s beginning to become a lottery to get into some of those classes. </p>

<p>On the first 3-4 lectures for my last 4 math classes, there were approximately 60 people sitting down… and another 40 people standing in the back of the room hoping to get into the class. Shoot, this was common with chem classes. </p>

<p>Financial aid was also interesting at my college; You had to sign up early in the year, miss the deadline? Sorry! Need to submit documentation? Ok, here’s a 1 hour line, and when you’re done it’ll take about a month or two to get the financial aid. I was thankful to have it, but it really did take forever.</p>

<p>You also had to go in at 9am to get a counseling appointment, and if you weren’t, you’d have to come back the next day as they filled up that quick (2 weeks in advance). </p>

<p>Compared to going to a UC, you don’t really get much of a support net, so it’s no surprise that it would be a tougher journey. Even then, the community colleges are the first step into higher education for most people, and a last resort for others! This way, everyone gets another shot at it - including you, if you manage to screw it up. </p>

<p>Seriously though, it’s not like you’re given a free ride and can blow off class - my calc/physics/chem classes were just as hard, if not harder than the ones that I’ve taken at the UC I’m at! I still get compliments on the quality of my lab reports and some of my smarter buddies still come to me for help :wink: </p>

<p>Nice job on the trolling.</p>

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<p>LAforlife: I concur, despite my situation and if it doesn’t change, I will still apply for TAG since the worst that could happen is they don’t approve it. My cumulative UC GPA is 3.5 combined.</p>

<p>Lemaitre1: I still sleep fine at night.</p>

<p>wwlink: Hoping for the best, I’m applying as a math major. Got all A’s from Pre-Calc to Linear Algebra.</p>

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<p>I guess on another note, is anyone familiar with the TAG application review process? I just calculated my potential overall GPA at PCC. I am currently taking two classes P/NP basis, but if I take them for a letter grade, getting at least B’s, it will take my GPA up to 2.0. My question is, when do they verify that you are in good standing? Thanks guys.</p>

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<p>I think you submit your grades by the 31st, and they probably check it all out in October, since they will give you a decision in November (if stuff hasn’t changed much since I did it). </p>

<p>Getting As in your math classes if you’re a math major is a good sign xD</p>