UC rankings

College Search & Selection
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<p>would some of you guys/gals offer your professional opinion in ranking the UC schools from best to worst? I'm just wondering what's under the almighty CAL and UCLA, since I applied to all of them.</p>

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<p>I would rank them:</p>

<ol>
<li>UC Berkeley</li>
<li>UC Los Angeles</li>
<li>UC San Diego</li>
<li>UC Davis</li>
<li>UC Santa Barbara </li>
<li>UC Irvine</li>
<li>UC Santa Cruz</li>
<li>UC Riverside</li>
</ol>

<p>No idea about UC Merced</p>

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<p>Over All
1. UC Berkeley
1. UC Los Angeles(R&D UCLA received 780 Mil Berkeley 450MIL)
Very very close game right now. (Acceptance rate 24% Dead Even)</p>

<ol>
<li><p>UC San Diego</p></li>
<li><p>UC Irvine</p></li>
<li><p>UC Santa Barbara (Physics Dept SB is as good or better than UCB) </p></li>
<li><p>UC Davis</p></li>
<li><p>UC Santa Cruz</p></li>
<li><p>UC Riverside</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Science & Eng.</p>

<ol>
<li>UCB</li>
<li><p>UCSD </p></li>
<li><p>UCLA</p></li>
<li><p>UCI</p></li>
<li><p>UCSB</p></li>
<li><p>UCD</p></li>
<li><p>UCR</p></li>
<li><p>UCSC</p></li>
</ol>

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<p>Afterhours has the list exactly as I would construct it. We know many, many kids who get into SB and Irvine but not Davis, and Irvine but not SB. Also SC is coming up and is in a dead heat with Irvine IMO.</p>

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<p>I like Oxypomona's breakdown very much. One thing to keep in mind, though it may not affect this year's incoming undergrad directly, is that UCLA has been aggressively fundraising for while and is a the $2.6 billion mark of an ongoing campaign that will allow it to weather some of the budget cuts imposed by the state. (Note: a common misconception is that the UC's are mostly funded by the state when in fact only about 21 percent of their budget comes from there.) Berkeley is way behind the curve in fundraising and UCLA may be clearly ahead as an institution in the next 5-10 years.</p>

<p>Also, with respect to engineering, UCLA is on the rise after drifting for several years: one dean died, a replacement resigned for health reasons, a top candidate turned the job down...some sequence something like that. The new dean is pretty kick-ass and the reports I hear are positive on both a macro and micro level.</p>

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<p>in forseeable future, except for the location of campus.</p>

<p>R&D fund is misleading since Berkeley has less students, and doesn't have a medical school, which is one major area getting a lot of more money than others.</p>

<p>UCLA's faculty is on par with USC, except the size of faculty body and a few exceptional ones. It is clearly one notch below Berkerley's, which is top top in the nation in almost every field.</p>

<p>UCLA already passed its best time, but looks like CAL too. I hope these two can recover their prestiges, but look, how long has either of them gotten a NOBEL since ...</p>

<p>As for undergrads, Fauclty quality is not as important as for graduate students. It is about campus culture and your peer students.</p>

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<p>and it is one hard aspect to catch up in short period, especialy in the time of budget cutting.</p>

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<p>"UCLA already passed its best time, but looks like CAL too. I hope these two can recover their prestiges, but look, how long has either of them gotten a NOBEL since ..."</p>

<p>alwaysthere, in economics alone Berkeley had the Nobel Prize associated with it 3 years in a row two years ago. UCLA had a Nobel Prize winner as recently as 6 years ago. That is pretty darn good considering most schools cant even lay claim to one single Nobel Prize winner. Shoot, many COUNTRIES dont have as many Nobel Prizes as either of these two schools (especially Berkeley).</p>

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<ol>
<li>UC Berkeley</li>
<li>UCLA, UCSD</li>
<li>UC Davis</li>
<li>UCSB</li>
<li>UCI</li>
<li>UCSC</li>
<li>UCR</li>
<li>UC Merced</li>
</ol>

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<p>Alright, here's my ranking:
[ol]
[<em>]UCB
[</em>]UCLA
[<em>]UCSD
[</em>]UCD
[<em>]UCSB
[</em>]UCI
[<em>]UCSC
[</em>]UCR
[li]UCM[/li][/ol]</p>

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<p>I think Santa Cruz is getting the short end of the stick here. It has smaller classes and is more intellectual than any but the top 3.</p>

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<p>I remembered a lot from Chemistry, Physics, Medince, not too many others:)</p>

<p>What I meant is they are still damn good schools, but not like that dominant in the old days. A lot of other UCs are catching up in this Nobel category, UCIrvine, UCSB, UCSD, etc. As a whole, UC is improveing. Plus Stanford, CalTech, USC, and Scrippps-like research institutes, Go California!</p>

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<p>Always there
The Federal expenditures do not include R&D for medical schools.</p>

<p>This is the footnote.</p>

<p>Methodology: Total R&D and Federal R&D expenditures for peer institutions are presented in actual dollars. The Federal expenditures do not include R&D for medical schools. The data is from the National Science Foundation's WebCaspar at <a href="http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/nsf03316/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/nsf03316/&lt;/a>. </p>

<p><a href="http://metrics.vcbf.berkeley.edu/metricsData.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://metrics.vcbf.berkeley.edu/metricsData.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>UCSC may be more intellectual but it is more laidback aswell. It is not cut throat like some other UC's and the students tend not to be as serious. It has a reputation of being a reefer/surfer school for white non-scientists. At least thats what I hear.</p>

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<p>From Berkeley News</p>

<p>Excerpt</p>

<p>UC Berkeley's Research Spending Rank Tumbles</p>

<p>UC Berkeley tumbled five places this year to 12th place in research spending as UC Los Angeles climbed two notches to second place in a set of rankings on research expenditures published last month by the National Science Foundation.
The rankings, examining spending data from three years ago, showed that UC Berkeley's research expenditures declined to $446.3 million in the 2000-01 school year. </p>

<p>Overall, the UC system dominated the rankings with five of the 10 campuses earning spots and UCLA, UC San Francisco and UC San Diego in the top 10. </p>

<p>Mirroring a national trend, every UC campus except for Berkeley increased research expenditures in the 2000-01 year. </p>

<p>Only two institutions, Stanford University and UC Berkeley, experienced a decline in research spending.</p>

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<p>Here is my rankings-
1. UCSD
2. UCLA
3. Berk
4. UCSB
5. UCD
6. UCI
7. UCSC
8. Riverside
9. Merc</p>

<p>So why UCSD at number one? I know plenty of friends who have chosen UCSD over Cal and UCLA. UCSD is pretty much on fire right now. It has a college system like that of Oxford w/ the 6 colleges (hence the name: Oxford on the Pacific), its located in an amazing area, great study abroad program, AMAZING campus, great weather, excellent academics, great pre medding, no cuts made for atheletes in admissions, excellent library, and an overall awesome student life. Really, it isn't just about a little chart with rankings. I would choose UCSD in a heartbeat over that of Cal and UCLA. If it wasn't for prestige and if you could all see these campuses with an open mind I'm sure that UCSD would become much more appealing.</p>

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<p>Sigh...must we do this over and over again?</p>

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<p>"its located in an amazing area, great study abroad program, AMAZING campus, great weather, excellent academics, great pre medding, no cuts made for atheletes in admissions, excellent library, and an overall awesome student life." </p>

<p>This seems a lot like UCLA as well, but I think that UCLA has a much better looking campus than UCSD.</p>

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<p>Berkeley UG+GS 33076 students</p>

<p>UCLA UG+GS 38598</p>

<p>R&D UCLA 790 Mil UCB 450</p>

<p>Per Student</p>

<p>UCLA $20,467 (750 Mil/ 38598)
UCB $13,605 (450 Mil/33076)</p>

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<p>The Federal expenditures do not include R&D for medical schools.
This is the footnote.</p>

<p>Methodology: Total R&D and Federal R&D expenditures for peer institutions are presented in actual dollars. The Federal expenditures do not include R&D for medical schools. The data is from the National Science Foundation's WebCaspar at <a href="http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/nsf03316/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/nsf03316/&lt;/a>. </p>

<p><a href="http://metrics.vcbf.berkeley.edu/metricsData.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://metrics.vcbf.berkeley.edu/metricsData.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Oxy is correct but I would want to footnote the posts to note that R&D mostly affects the <em>graduate</em> level schools, though certainly I would expect some spill over to affect the undergrad academic environment. </p>

<p>There's a time-lag with respect to reality and reputation. I expect UCLA to keep climbing and I think UC San Diego is one of the most underrated universities in the country right now. </p>

<p>UCLA is also at the $2.6 billion mark in an on-going Development campaign right now, a figure that dwarfs any similar efforts by any other public insitution.</p>