<p>I personally think the UC system is better than the IVY “overall” Location, Weather, Social scene, Sports…UC’s are underrated and i think because they are public…any agree…</p>
<p>it's apple vs. oranges. They have different purposes, different goals, different levels of sports, different levels of academics. The UC system is coveted by any other state in the nation and provides great education at a great price. The Ivy League, however, provides the best education as long as you are willing to pay the price (BTW the lvy league may look like their sports blow but many Ivys have tons of school spirit).</p>
<p>Jeebus H. Christophson, son, aren't you getting tired of making these threads? You have like four of them now.</p>
<p>"The UC system is coveted by any other state in the nation and provides great education at a great price. "</p>
<p>That's true, but the public universities are slowly losing that comparision advantage because many privates have begun to waive tuition for low-income families (such as Harvard <60k).</p>
<p>The UC system wont lose their comparative advantage because many privates waive tutition. I think it is great that the privates are doing it, but it is hardly a dent in the number of students in need. Students-in-need make up a small portion of the Ivy's and the Ivys are not growing and the student population is very small in comparsion to the UC system.</p>
<p>I agree the number of students that will be affected won't be too many, however this eliminates the reason not to choose a top ivy league university over a public university because of price. the difficulty is gaining the admission (as it always has been). this basically allows the private universities to attract the best students from disadvantaged backgrounds.</p>
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<p>But only for household making less than $60k, and how many people is that? If you're $60k<x<$80k, you'll have the toughest time if you aren't awarded much financial aid.</p>
<p>Do you even know how much financial aid those families who earn 60-80k receive?</p>
<p>Do you want me to give you examples?</p>
<p>Let's start with the one closest to home: Dad makes about $65K at a construction job (no insurance), mom works CA minimum wage. Had to decline Dartmouth because they gave nothing but loans. Decided to go to Berkeley (gave all loans as well, save for a $600 workstudy, but overall cost is cheaper).</p>
<p>Another: Similar household wages (probably a little more), but this time, she got into Duke. She decided to take out the loans (despite my "advice").</p>
<p>I'm sure there are more, if I knew anyone else that got into other top privates. And no, FAFSAs weren't filed late or anything. So, the questions is: Do you even know how much financial aid those families who earn 60-80k receive?</p>
<p>Actually I don't know, but does Dartmouth offer the same free tuition situation? If no, then I would say someone who goes to Harvard now who's parents make 60-80k would be more suitable to answer such a question, or at least someone who got accepted by a private university that offered such a program. Personally I am curious to hear from a Harvard student to find out whether his financial aid package changed at all (before the implementation of the program and afterwards).</p>