<p>@daisy like socrates saying the only thing he knew was that he didn’t know anything?</p>
<p>@carter and @ffightingdaisy the main problem is that that’s very circular. How can you make a foundation for the fact that we can’t know anything? You can’t question everything and make it a new foundation. This is why instances and contingencies. </p>
<p>And I think that philosophy isn’t just thinking for the sake of thinking. Philosophy and knowledge very much affect our world. Because of that we should be asking more than question that result in nothingness.</p>
<p>@ironchariot exactly haha! I guess arguments do end up being circular(I mean we keep trying but at the end of the day we return to philosophers that are thousands of years old).
Somebody told me once that “all ideas are recycled” :D</p>
<p>@wisconsindebater yes I in fact agree with you. While we cannot really base arguments upon the premise that we don’t know everything, this reminder alone can serve as a moral lesson - a lot of young people today forget about…</p>
<p>by the way which area of wisconsin are you from? I attended a day school in milwaukee for a year :)</p>
<p>Ahh how about we just agree to disagree?</p>
<p>I agree that philosophy isn’t just thinking for the sake of thinking–I think it’s really helpful to figure out how to approach life, and how to live in a way that brings you and the people around you as much happiness and as little harm as possible. So while I agree that its circularity makes it impossible to implement scientifically, I don’t think that makes it unimportant. The idea that we know nothing, for example, can be a good way to keep from taking things too seriously (or that’s how I find it, anyway.) It fills a different human need from science, which provides a sense of certainty. I think it’s still important, though.</p>
<p>A lot of people like to say that science tells us what is and philosophy tells us what we ought to do (bringin’ the Hume up in here)</p>
<p>@Daisy Sheboygan 
haha just north of Milwaukee</p>
<p>@ironchariot Moral philosophy described the “ought”. There are more branches than that. I enjoy ontological and political (in the sense of relations, not gov’t politics)</p>
<p>I know that I’m going to talk about D-Day here for a second, but I want to say something. </p>
<p>Whether you get accepted or not, most of you are probably going to do great things. U Chicago is merely one school of a lot of great ones, that I’m sure most of you will get into. Look back in twenty years, and your potential rejection will hardly mean anything. </p>
<p>Warren Buffet- one of the richest and most philanthropic men in the world- was rejected from Harvard. </p>
<p>John Kerry- the current Secretary of State- was rejected from Harvard.</p>
<p>Tina Fey- one of the funniest people alive- was rejected from Princeton.</p>
<p>Where you’re going to go for the next four years doesn’t matter. If you’re going to do great things, you’re going to do them. I sure as hell hope to get in, and must of you probably do, too. And if you do, hold your head high knowing that you accomplished something that few accomplish. If you don’t, well, screw them. Don’t let the University of Chicago determine your worth; do that yourself. No matter if you are accepted, deferred, or rejected, you’re all wonderful people, and you’re all going to do some wonderful things.</p>
<p>@debater thanks for the much-eeded reminder</p>
<p>That sure made me happy. We should definitely keep the thread alive even after decisions are released! I wanna see where you guys go. When we get older (and richer), we can throw a Gatsby party and laugh about this.</p>
<p>As a philosopher, when I think, I always thing of other and how their life differentiate from mine, whether the difference is good or bad. And then I analyze those differences, “why is this” why did that happen" of course you do not get an answer right away but trust when you do get an answer the world seem much clearer as a whole.
Did I confuse anyone? I only started couple of month ago :)</p>
<p>I went to work and I missed so much! Reading through most of it, it was interesting stuff though. This discussion is fabulous.</p>
<p>I do recall that someone asked where people are from (pardon me for forgetting who): I’m also in IL a bit north of Chicago. </p>
<p>and @debater1996 great point and encouragement!! Also, if I’m not mistaken I saw that you said you were also north of Chicago! We’re probably close-ish (cool!).</p>
<p>@fangirl</p>
<p>How far north? I’m only going to speak in generalities, so I’ll tell you that I’m North, but still in Illinois.</p>
<p>i freaking love tina fey – is that why she’s the admissions counselor for princeton in that movie “admission”? that would explain some things. </p>
<p>thank you for the inspiring and heartfelt words, debater. i will look back on them on D day and be a little bit more at peace on the inside :)</p>
<p>i’m fron northern il too</p>
<p>@debater1996 Understandable, regarding generalities. I’m in the Northwest suburbs as well! What happenstance! </p>
<p>I agree, Tina Fey is rad.</p>
<p>@ironchariot I almost wish we could “party” on D-day together, all these Northern IL people. So funny.</p>
<p>woo it’d be the ILlest party…get it? god i’m lame…both figuratively and literally</p>
<p>Damn… Lol. Nice words Debater. Philosophy is important! I just hope to get into UofM so I can worry less about getting into some top-tier schools.</p>