<p>Overall which is the better school?</p>
<p>UCR dunt even consider pomona</p>
<p>almost same i think...
worst UC vs Best csu...</p>
<p>pomona is the best csu? i thought it was cal state san oblgiqnosdfn oenfon</p>
<p>I think most would say Cal Poly San Luis Obispo is the best Cal State school.</p>
<p>Which is better, UCR or Cal Poly Pomona? It depends.</p>
<p>the humanities: riverside hands down.
the arts: riverside.
sciences: riverside slight edge.
business: pomona.
engineering: pomona.
agriculture: pomona.
overall: pomona slightly ahead.</p>
<p>umm.. business pomona??! </p>
<p>can you tell me why?</p>
<p>Could you justify your perceptions in general, drj?</p>
<p>okay, here are a few tidbits. not opinions but facts:</p>
<ol>
<li><p>monies invested: average per full time faculty member, pomona 168K, riverside 147K.</p></li>
<li><p>number of undergraduate degree programs, pomona 13, riverside 1.</p></li>
<li><p>number of graduate degree programs, pomona 12, riverside 1.</p></li>
<li><p>number of undergraduate courses, pomona 240, riverside 70 (UCR including economics and sociology crossovers)</p></li>
<li><p>number of full time faculty equivalents in business, pomona 114, riverside 42.</p></li>
<li><p>number of full time faculty with doctoral degrees, pomona 90, riverside 39.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>i don't mind giving riverside credit when due. its humanities programs are far superior to pomona's and better than its sister campus at SLO. many of its science programs are far superior as well. my previous post did not even mention pomona's better programs in architecture, engineering, and hospitality management, which is ranked in the top three in the nation with cornell and purdue.</p>
<p>now where is the data that shows riverside business better?</p>
<p>Honestly I'm not convinced that one engineering program is superior to the other. To some extent, I also feel this way about the business programs. Some statistics that you provided (what's your source?) seem to me just not necessarily and maybe not very much at all important. For instance, number of faculty with doctoral degrees. I'm not incredibly versed about the business world, but as far as I know, many teach with MBAs and I'm not sure how necessary a PhD is compared to an MBA for many business professors. Number of degree programs . . . well, Berkeley has only one, but does that mean it's not as good as SDSU or Cal Poly Pomona in business? What about the student to faculty ratio in the business programs? I think that would be an informative stat, perhaps also average class sizes, perhaps also recruiter rankings of each school.</p>
<p>my source is AACSB, which is the accreditation body for all business programs worldwide. these data are provided by each institution and then verified by faculty from other accredited universities through a series of site visits. wrt the comparison of master's and doctoral degrees, AACSB requires accredited program faculty to be either AQ or academically qualified, or PQ, professionally qualified, with the majority required to be AQ. this status would be extremely hard to certify without a doctoral degree.</p>
<p>now where is your data that shows riverside business to be better?</p>
<p>actually it is very common to choose Cal Poly for UC Riverside. Cal Poly has a nice campus and a farm too. UCR is kinda uh-uh-uhglhy</p>
<p>Indeed, from a very educated perspective one could only agree it's "uh-uh-uhglhy." </p>
<p>:rolleyes:</p>
<p>If you aren't a fan of grass, trees, and brick, perhaps it's not your thing.</p>
<p>drj, my response is the same. Some of what you provide is of minimal to alsmot no importance without more information, and you leave out other important information. Cheers.</p>
<p>i'd say they're both ugly.. campus wise ucr is probably prettier but the surrounding city of riverside just plain blows. At least CPP is in a suburb.</p>
<p>Because Riverside is not a suburb, or at least isn't mostly filled with suburb?</p>
<p>not the areas around campus.</p>
<p>If you had to classify it as either city, suburb, or rural, the area dirrectly around campus is fairly suburban, and a trip down university avenue will lead you to the "city." But the "city" (downtown Riverside area) is really fairly small, and outside of this area, Riverside is pretty much a suburb. If peopel think of cities as including and consisting of very large suburban areas, then perhaps Riverside is a city.</p>
<p>rab, you claim i don't give you enough facts or offer useless information but where are yours?</p>
<p>as far as beauty in concerned, that's obviously a perceptual point. some people like hobo don't like either campus. but if want an amalgamation of what students think, perceptually, about the two schools side by side, check out <a href="http://www.studentsreview.com%5B/url%5D">www.studentsreview.com</a>. there's only one category out of a couple dozen rated by students that places riverside ahead, maintenance. i personally think riverside students are a bit harsh about their school but hey, they should know best since they go there.</p>
<p>My not providing any quantatative data doesn't nullify the fact some of what you provide is of minimal to alsmot no importance without more information, and you leave out other important information.</p>
<p>That website has many problems for pretty much every school I've read. It's mostly filled with students who want to vent about their school, and there is no chek if a non-student posts about any school.</p>
<p>and the next thing you're going to say is that anything from AACSB is full of problems since you don't agree with the data. perhaps you have no clue what AACSB does. you offer nothing but opinions and anecdotes and expect credibility from readers? if you want more information why don't you dig it out and provide it rather than bang on those who do?</p>